Pro-Life? Adopt a kid!!!

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  1. Bowerbird

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    And where is that performed? Especially considering that medical abortions are becoming far more common and they take place in the first eight weeks no surgical intervention

    Oh and learn what a strawman fallacy is
     
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    They have parents remember? You know the people weactuallybthink should look after the kids

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    your strawman explained to you....at no point did I say anything about what abortions were legal in the United States. You made that statement then attempted to use it to justify your version of my point. Not only was it a strawman, it was a textbook example of one. The point was and still is, you support the merciless killing of a defenseless human whether it be here or elsewhere thrn come off with your faux save the children crap. I find that hypocrisy most amusing.
     
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    Im being hysterical?

    wtf?

    no one aborts a zygote.

    When a stork delivers you a baby, you let me know.
     
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    You were the one that inferred that all abortion was killing babies "slaughter of the innocent". Abortions happen shortly after or even at the zygote stage. Further - anti aborts have submitted legislation claiming the zygote is a "Homo sapiens" a living human based on hysterical rhetoric such as yours.
     
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    I dont think you know what your talking about. zygotes are only zygotes for like 3 days. You wouldnt even know you were pregnant.

    PS Babies dont come from storks.
     
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    No, babies happen when a fetus is BORN.....
     
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    No you described a procedure that is illegal
     
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    Nice deflection, the OP stated “if you’re pro life then adopt “. I replied that we’ve adopted 5.
    Now you’re talking about the million unborn children that have been aborted. I’m gonna let you in on a little secret...those 926,195 unborn children have already been aborted, unfortunately they will never have the option nor the opportunity to be adopted, it’s too late for them, they had no choice in the matter.
     
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    Who says they aren't? My wife and I tried repeatedly to adopt but were told not to bother as we were not likely candidates (already had one child, too old, et cetera).
     
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    what if it is...so is illegal immigration..you still support it..
    killing is killing
     
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    Why should it take months when that fetus has grown into a baby that has everything it needs to live before the mother decides to abort it? It is alive, moving, feeling. It shouldn't take months to realize she can't afford it. Why should the Democrats insist on abortion rights, right up to time of delivery? There should be a cut off time for abortion, except to save the mother's life, or having a baby born with such an affliction that it would be a great financial and physical burden on the parent. Republicans are willing to compromise, the Democrats aren't.
     
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    UH DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, that IS the way it is......the Democrats do NOT insist on abortion right up until birth.

    Abortion is illegal after 23 weeks unless there is danger to the life health of woman or fetus....maybe you should update yourself on abortion before commenting .



    Did you know that Canada has no abortion laws and women do NOT, DO NOT "enjoy" 8 1/2 months of pregnancy just have the "fun" of an abortion.


    NO woman does despite you making the claim that all women are so mentally deranged that they do .....they do not.


    Pro-Choice was the party of compromise....it compromised 23 weeks as a cut off.....when no cut off was really needed...
     
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    Ronstar said:
    How come all the folks who want to ban abortion aren't out there adopting children from poor mothers?

    How come they aren't offering to adopt babies from mothers wanting to abort?




    Well, then I guess YOU aren't adopting, are you?


    (And having one child already is not a reason...)
     
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    Unlike you I do not "find it amusing" that those who scream about abortion do not care at all about actual born children who can feel and think....
     
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    Strong column by David Brooks this morning, pointing out how fanatical the Democratic Party is in its commitment to preserving abortion rights at all costs. He writes in the voice of a fictional Democratic consultant who is trying to convince the party to moderate its stance. Excerpts:

    I understand that our donors (though not necessarily our voters) want to preserve a woman’s right to choose through all nine months of her pregnancy. But do we want late-term abortion so much that we are willing to tolerate President Trump? Do we want it so much that we give up our chance at congressional majorities? Do we want it so much that we see our agendas on poverty, immigration, income equality and racial justice thwarted and defeated?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/pro-life-adopt-a-kid.535742/page-6


    I remember them voting to keep abortion rights right up to 9 months.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    UH DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, that IS the way it is......the Democrats do NOT insist on abortion right up until birth.

    Abortion is illegal after 23 weeks unless there is danger to the life health of woman or fetus....maybe you should update yourself on abortion before commenting .



    Did you know that Canada has no abortion laws and women do NOT, DO NOT "enjoy" 8 1/2 months of pregnancy just have the "fun" of an abortion.


    NO woman does despite you making the claim that all women are so mentally deranged that they do .....they do not.


    Pro-Choice was the party of compromise....it compromised 23 weeks as a cut off.....when no cut off was really needed...









    Then they would be compromising which YOU claimed they didn't do!


    AND, this is not about abortion rights, this is first about RIGHTS, the right to one's own body.


    YES, everyone should be fanatical about people keeping the right to their own body!


    So do you feel that if a woman's life or health are at risk she should be denied an abortion that may save her life!!!!!???

    CAN you answer that???????????

    Now, can you address the post of mine you quoted?


    Brooks obviously has NO understanding of the situation whatsoever.
     
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    This is what I originally said "There should be a cut off time for abortion, except to save the mother's life, or having a baby born with such an affliction that it would be a great financial and physical burden on the parent.


    CLAIM
    President Trump said that a number of state laws allow a baby 'to be born from his or her mother’s womb in the ninth month.'

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    On 19 January 2018, President Trump broadcast an address from the White House Rose Garden in conjunction with the pro-life group March for Life’s 45th annual rally. Lending his support to that movement (even though he was once squarely on the opposite site of that issue), the president told the audience that he was committed to building “a society where life is celebrated, protected and cherished.”

    The president raised some eyebrows, however, when he proclaimed that “Right now, a number of state laws allow a baby to be born from his or her mother’s womb in the ninth month. It is wrong. It has to change:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/pro-life-adopt-a-kid.535742/page-6
     
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    Democrats want to keep the right to an abortion right up to 9 months period.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    UH DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, that IS the way it is......the Democrats do NOT insist on abortion right up until birth.

    Abortion is illegal after 23 weeks unless there is danger to the life health of woman or fetus....maybe you should update yourself on abortion before commenting .



    Did you know that Canada has no abortion laws and women do NOT, DO NOT "enjoy" 8 1/2 months of pregnancy just have the "fun" of an abortion.


    NO woman does despite you making the claim that all women are so mentally deranged that they do .....they do not.


    Pro-Choice was the party of compromise....it compromised 23 weeks as a cut off.....when no cut off was really needed...


    Then they would be compromising which YOU claimed they didn't do!


    AND, this is not about abortion rights, this is first about RIGHTS, the right to one's own body.


    YES, everyone should be fanatical about people keeping the right to their own body!


    So do you feel that if a woman's life or health are at risk she should be denied an abortion that may save her life!!!!!???

    CAN you answer that???????????

    Now, can you address the post of mine you quoted?


    Brooks obviously has NO understanding of the situation whatsoever.





    So you could NOT address my post nor answer those inconvenient questions :)

    Yes, Trump FLIP FLOPPED on abortion which is no surprise.

    Trump the genius : ""“Right now, a number of state laws allow a baby to be born from his or her mother’s womb in the ninth month. It is wrong. It has to change""


    Uh, ya, babies are born at nine months....did Trump just discover this? Did he want women to be forced to keep the fetus inside past nine months ?!!!


    He claims, "" “a society where life is celebrated, protected and cherished.”"""

    UNTIL THEY ARE BORN OR come from another country and then they are garbage to him .....








    So do you feel that if a woman's life or health are at risk she should be denied an abortion that may save her life!!!!!???



    WHY can't you answer that???



     
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    Yes, they do so if a woman's life or health are in danger she can abort to save her life......I guess to you and Trump "precious, cherished life" doesn't apply to women ???!!
     
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    Is it currently legal to have an abortion, in cases where health of mother and unborn is not at risk, at 9 months???
     
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    It's real simple folks. If you're against abortion...then don't have one. That was easy.
     
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    It is currently legal in some states to have it when they are not at risk. That's the problem. Democrats don't want to limit a woman's right to her own body and believe the baby has no right at all until actually born. That isn't right.
     
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    Which states is it legal to have an abortion at 9 months when neither the mother nor unborns life or health are in danger?
     

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