How to shut down people who complain about Hillary winning the most votes.

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  1. Margot2

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    What has he accomplished?
     
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    she got almost 3 million more votes than he did.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    RW propaganda fantasy. Prove that three million votes were fraudulent.
     
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    Prove they were not!

    Just why do they want to prevent ID for voting and registering to vote? You know why and so do I. They want to stuff the ballot box and buy or steal votes because the liberals cannot do it honestly!,
    You can deny it, but it is absolutely true. They are now getting ready to set up cameras and use face recognition to tell if voters are voting in more than one spot.
    And we need to return to physical voting. These cheaters go and use grandma with Alzheimer's and use here to vote. Finger prints would work well too!!

    My uncle was a life long republican, but after he died, he became a democrat voter.
     
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    NO she didn't, you are lying. She got a considerable less votes than Trump did. It is the only vote that counts, and Trump got a lot more electoral votes by a landslide over Hillary. IF I remember right, the vote was 306 for Trump, 232 for Hitlery. So she got less votes than trump by a long shot!!!!
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your making the assertion. Prove your own claim. I have better things to do that chase down the crackpot claims.

    If you can't back up you're own claims, that's you problem. Maybe it impresses others.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Democrat outpaced President-elect Donald Trump by almost 2.9 million votes, with 65,844,954 (48.2%) to his 62,979,879 (46.1%), according to revised and certified final election results from all 50 states and the District of Columbia.
    http://fox2now.com/2016/12/21/popular-vote-finalized-in-presidential-election/

    BTW, accusing someone of lying is against the rules here. Believe me, I could do it too.

    Since you're new here, I'll let it go this time.
     
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  8. not2serious

    not2serious Well-Known Member

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    Enough to make the democrats and liberals heads explode. Some left wing comedian (well sort of) is hoping for a massive recession to make trump look bad, at the expense of American jobs and futures. hahahaha That is a head exploding if I ever saw one!

    Just wait, when he puts in a pro life judge on the supreme court, the murdering of babies will end, and it will force men and women to be responsible for their terrible sexual behavior.
     
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    YOu cannot back up your claims that there is NOT massive voter fraud.

    You cannot see the air normally, but you KNOW it is there. Think of illegal voting as air.
     
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    It was a sarcasm, but I will not stir up the pot again, I will remove myself from doing it in the future.
    However, this is the UNITED STATES. We are a republic, not a democracy. And only the states can vote for president, and the vote total goes to the state representation. Trump won the vote, 306 to 232. End of story. She could have beaten Bernie, even if Bernie got more votes by the same type of system.

    And, the Senate is also elected the same way as the president. TO win a senate seat in Wyoming take 200,000 votes, in California 2,000,000, but they both end up with the same power. It is a brilliant system that keeps small states with power and big states with power. No one state can really rule the nation. Smart smart smart.

    And you can tell me that the democrats do not "stuff the ballot box", it is just not an enforced secret. I see that the democrats are trying to block the face recognition for voters. I wonder why?
     
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    I know how it works. I have never disputed that donald was selected by the EC. The president represents the people, all Americans. He is the only elected official that is in that position. The fact that America is a Republic doesn't require that millions of votes be effectively nullified because of the EC system, as another member noted.

    But the issue was whether this was a "landslide" victory. And sorry, when the almost three million more people voted for the other candidate, that in no reasonable measure can be called a landslide victory IMO.
     
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    As I've stated in numerous posts now because you guys keep repeating the same thing over and over, I have not and do not dispute that donald was selected by the EC. The issue is whether it was a "landslide" victory, and IMO, an election where donald received about 3 million fewer votes than Clinton is in no reasonable interpretation a "landslide" victory.

    Start a new thread if you want.
     
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    Not liking him isn't a reason for electors to not pick him lol.

    A nominee would really have to screw up to have them change their vote.

    Remember that they are released according to the popular vote in their state, their job is to vote the will of the people, we use them in case of an extreme emergency which Trump certainly is not.

    If he was that bad we could simply impeach him.

    But he isn't.
     
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    Those votes all came from California, not the nation so its not representative.

    One very highly populated area gave her the popular vote, Trump actually won the nation.

    This is why we use the EC and not a direct vote.
     
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    When did California stop being a state?
     
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    Not a very good argument. It doesn’t change anything about how Trump lost the popular vote. The DNC primary election system may be corrupt, but it’s also a private entity. I have less of a problem with it’s bias for one candidate than I do with the idea of the American election system reversing the popular decision of American voters.
     
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    uh, yes she did. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hil...ins-popular-vote-29-million/story?id=44354341

    Nobody is denying that trump was selected by the EC. But the fact remains Clinton was the preferred candidate over trump by the American voters.
     
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    LOL.....Progressives and their Elites. Get their hands dirty. Who you trying to fool? :lol:

    BO peep did pack the Courts. That's why there is a problem with them. But don't worry its all being straightened out and set back on the Right Path.
     
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    All you have to do is post this picture and go back to your day:

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    Isn't that similar to what Obama did to her on 2008?

    Obama stole the primary from HRC in 08.
     
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    Worst analogy ever. Better would be if the whole board were filled with pieces and black had more, yet white was declared the winner because it occupied the most white tiles.
     
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    No, the 2 worst Presidents were obama and Bush 43. Its way too early to rate Trump, but so far he is doing pretty good.
     
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    Yes, that's why the Russians went after voting machine software. They only needed to change a few votes in a few states to make Trump win.
    Trump didn't need the popular vote.

    Russian agents hacked US voting system manufacturer before US election – report
     
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    We are a republic, not a democracy. That is the simple answer. It was corrupt for her to even be on the ballot. If trump had gotten the questions from the presidential debates before hand, that news would have never gone away and it would be a deal breaker.
     

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