Seymour Hersh - Seth Rich Was Wikileaks Contact

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :eekeyes: You mean there have been government-backed assassinations in Washington? But this kind of **** is only supposed to happen in Moscow.
     
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    Well if you say so, then it must be so.

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    And we have this from the Gatewaypundit:

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    In late May 2017 internet entrepreneur Kim DotCom claimed to have evidence that former DNC worker Seth Rich was involved in the leaked emails released by WikiLeaks.

    Kim DotCom later said trusting Mueller was a mistake and that the special counsel was out to destroy President Trump.

    On Friday Kim DotCom responded to the latest Mueller indictments of another 12 Russian operatives.

    Deep State indictment against Russian DNC hackers is so light on evidence that the DOJ should place a Weight Watchers logo on the front page. #ZeroCalories

    Mueller knows that his PR stunt will never be tested in Court. The ‘Russian Conspirators’ will never see a US Court room.
    2:25 PM - Jul 13, 2018


    Deep State activities like this indictment against 12 Russians confirm the advise of my legal team. Special Counsel Mueller and the DOJ cannot be trusted. My team asked me not to provide my Seth Rich evidence without solid legal protections for me and my family. They were right.
     
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    Russia murdered hundreds of their citizens in the Moscow bombings and you still trust them.

    sad.
     
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    Check out Col Laing's blog on the Mueller indictment. He was former CIA too - and likewise considers the indictment to be the nonsense it transparently is.

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_...indictment-of-the-gru-by-publius-tacitus.html
     
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    I suspect that the latest Mueller indictments have ended this fantasy about who hacked the Leaks
     
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    Interesting. What's the evidence for your conclusion?
     
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    Not going to happen. An indictment is meaningless unless the evidence can be tested in court. And that ain't going to happen, as Mueller and his team must surely have known when going public with this curious timing.
     
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    Ambassador Murray had a mental breakdown or something, didn't he?
     
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    Like Trump coordinating with the Russians to steal an election ?
     
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    Actually what they do to greats who oppose them; like the Pulitzer Prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersch, or the brilliant and award winning economist Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, is to defame and destroy their credibility by calling them names such as crazy etc.

    It's a manipulation of the minds of the American people that borders on the criminal. To me it's satanic, in that it's a negation of anything positive and constructive. How can the world survive if everyone is manipulating and hammering away at others solely for their own self interests?

    We're heading into an abyss..
     
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    The indictment with accompanying evidence is a lot more persuasive than pure fantasy. Even the right wing imaginary Guccifer2 is now exposed as Russia.

    And the curious timing is clearly an attempt to make Trump face reality before his private meeting with Russia. I know he said he is going to bring up the Russian efforts on his behalf in his meeting with Putin.

    My guess is it will go something like this " Thank you, your efforts on my behalf worked. Your reward is already in progress as I work to destroy NATO and America's leadership in the world"
     
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    October 29, 2010 06:52 PM
    The Foreign Office is not amused. The undiplomatic diplomat is advised to resign. When Murray refuses, the Foreign Office takes disciplinary action against him. His fundamental criticism of Karimov is not part of the government's case against him, at least not officially.

    Instead, he is accused of frequently going to work drunk, using his official car for private trips and handing out British visas in return for sexual favors. Murray is beside himself over these attempts at character assassination.

    He has a physical and mental breakdown, is flown out under dramatic circumstances and is admitted to the psychiatric department of London's St. Thomas Hospital. "That was my personal purgatory," he says.

    continued

    http://www.spiegel.de/international...of-the-ruler-of-the-silk-road-a-724471-3.html
     
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    They know that the Russians will not be coming here to court, so this made up indictment is another concoction like the Trump Dossier. What surprises me are the ones who go along with it, I mean they can't be so stupid as to actually believe it? So why are they supporting liars and thieves?

    Liars and thieves have no conscience, so do they really think they are going to fare better in the end than those who supported Hitler or Stalin? Maybe they better open some history books.
     
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    Seymour Hersh is one of the few excellent investigative reporters left in journalism today.
     
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    glad you finally became aware of who Putin is
     
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    Projecting again!

    The investigative reporter Robert Parry of Consortiumnews had revealed a great many things, such as who was behind the shoot down of the air liner in Ukraine, and why the truth wasn't being told to the American people. We lost him recently. May he rest in peace. :pray:
     
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    As per the usual Jeaneatte you offer the garden variety of analysis, without ever questioning it's value. It is obvious you do not offer anything new, but simply place too much value on the usual
    Establishment leakers and DC connected expose people like Seymour, Snowden, Assange.
    I don't give two craps about awards and neither should you. These connected people are limited hangouts it should be more than obvious. And the usual PF inane detractors about obvious true plots to rig the primaries against Sanders (again we knew w/o Assange). Washington does and can doctor docs, leak info, create and manipulate splinter groups like the 'Progressives' should be a red flag.

    Assange does his "Wikileaks" to "crush bastards" and Snowden / Greenwald "treasure trove"only
    gave us in the Anti-War Left things we already knew. The U.S. Government creates parallel Left splinter groups, by leaking so called "bombshells." They are timed to control the press, boost MSM cred, (Assange, Snowden on Every Magazine cover, Paper front page) create new icons for the naive, and ultimately siphon, and/or spoon feed parallel Left created by the establishment back to the 2 Party State. It's just more astroturf control. Like Alex Jones is parallel Right but tells you,"vote GOP."

    Besides any dolt could tell Obama was using the same lousy WMD bull crap Bush did, honestly.
    Hersh is no different with his Syria analysis, like Assange Syria "revelations" came late 2016
    (after grass roots videos exposed the staged chemical attacks) Russia Today, and a dozen Left Antiwar blog places (that were not Hershs usual"anon. sources" in the DC intel community)
    again red flag.

    Americans knew Bush was spying after the Patriot Act because it was in Wired, and a dozen other mags. The American Left knew about dozens of U.S. atrocities including widespread massacres, torture stories, Abu Ghriab well before Assange torture files, Iraq video, because of Left bloggers truth reporting. The best work of any true grassroots movement is always done by unpaid bloggers, and yet Greenwald reportedly made millions, there were films, this 'trove', it's not there. Wikileaks was proved to be run by intel connected and financed people the whole time. Bradly Manning was supposedly handed the hard drive with everything, 'hackers' given passcodes by FBI like Barret Brown claims. Yet the astroturf creates heroes, "Free Bradley Manning." Nobody knows who Manning really is though. Or Snowden. Or Assange. Greenwald lies all day long on astroturf Demcracy Now, and Jeremy Scahill back from Af-Pak boycotted the Syria Peace Conference. Only in America could the CIA funded Left, be so obvious a controlled asset, limited hangout. Just like only in America Eric Garner could get killed over a cigarrette. It's insanity.

    Snowden again (direct from Washington DC) a no name 'janitor' Right Wing wacko on social media hands you a bunch of useless junk, calls it gold, and it puts the MSM back on the map. PRN.fm had dozens of radio podcasts about how America started the Syria war, the fake Syria WMD, so did a dozen or more American blogs aside from the foreign bloggers. Even Eric Draitser, who exposed the Syria plot by the United States back in 2011 on the Stop Imperialism podcast, noted Wiklleaks was "not real" very early on. You could go on YouTube and even get better virtually the same info without Hersh at all.

    The whole point of having a Seymore Hersh is to limit the scope, keep the herd narrowly focused - did Hersh ever imply Obama, Clinton should be arrested, impeached, heavens no. Code Pink these other astroturf controlled assets, ever say Obama, Hillary should be arrested, heavens, no. Not even after blowing up Libya because they are created and designed to lead back to the 2 Party State. They are funded by the Establishment like Greenwalds Intercept, Omidyar a Ukraine War co-conspirator and financier. I don't trust CIA people, (never trust intel connected types) not Sibel Edmonds, not Ray McGovern. They've all shown themselves to be compromised at some point, controlled in some way when the chips are down. Real journos don't become millionaires. Only the broken clocks at CNN, FOX, NBC, like Hannity, Dobbs, Cooper, Maddow, Olberman do.

    At look at these garden variety deniers at PF. They still playing the R v. L blame game all day.

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    The US murders, tortures, and extraordinarily renders people to torture chambers. The US separates children and families for not having the right paperwork. The US has long led the world in per capita rate of imprisonment.

    What is your point?
     
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    Trump called out the Russians to hack Hillary.... and he claimed the election was rigged against him during his campaign.. Have you forgotten that? I happen to think Trump is a lying blowhard who was trying to be "sensational" and claim victimhood, but he did say those things repeatedly.
     
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    The Moscow bombings gave Russia and excuse to slaughter Chechyns. Its been a while. .. 1999 I think.. four apartment complexes were bombed .. nearly 300 killed and many more injured. The timing was beneficial to Putin.
     
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    "Called out". Now that's rich.
     
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    One has to wonder if it's the voices in their heads, so that they truly believe what they are told, or if there's a semblance of reality, and they lie for an ideological agenda paid or otherwise.







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    I'm the master of chaos
    don't you know?
    It's what I do, and how I go.

    I lie and cheat - do everything foul
    to torment, as I scream and howl,
    to bring you down into our state,
    and flourish with us in our fate - Jeannette

     
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    Ah Love! could thou and I with Fate conspire
    To grasp this sorry Scheme of Things entire,
    Would not we shatter it to bits -- and then
    Re-mould it nearer to the Heart's Desire!
     
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    I'm not out to blast everyone- something you seem to like to do. I want to present reality as I know, and the motives behind those who are presenting things otherwise.

    I'm an avid reader and have a long memory with the innate ability to connect dots and form my own conclusions. I only want facts, not opinions unless I consider the one giving the opinion fully credible due to my own memory and past experiences with them.

    Credibility to me doesn't come from one's title, it comes from the logic and accuracy of what they say, so if they are mentioned, it means that I personally have found them credible. As an example, Seymour Hersh's writing on Kosovo was credible in that it conformed with what I knew historically about the area and the people involved, and from non MSM Greek newspapers and sites.

    The same with Robert Parry. What he said about the shoot down of the airliner was in line with what I knew about the situation in the area before it happened from the Saker. President Obama gave us no facts to prove it otherwise, but instead he used it as a tool to bash Russia and Vladimir Putin. By immediately accusing the militia and Russia, Obama and Kerry did what they know as lawyers should never be done, and that is to influence others before the facts can be known. So much for their integrity.

    As for the Pulitzer Prize itself, it too seems to have fallen recently to the same corrupt elements as the Noble Peace Prize. The Peace Prize was even going to be given to the MI6 construct, drawn from the Al Nusra terrorists which we know as the White Helmets. It was only stopped after the video of the child having his neck slit open became public.

    They all disgust me!
     

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