Did anybody change their mind today?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Etbauer, Jul 16, 2018.

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Did your opinion of trump change?

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  2. Yes, I disapprove of him now

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  3. Yes, I approve of him now

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  1. Etbauer

    Etbauer Banned

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    So, when a president is elected, everyone in the government of a different party needs to be fired?

    You can't possibly believe this is true. Can you name a single instance where trump has ever said or done anything (besides kissing a dictator's butt) that wasn't 100% in his own self interest. One instance where he said 'you know, this was unfair of me or my side, we were wrong'?
    Lied more than trump?
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The media propaganda campaign to divide the two strongest free market, individualist nations against eachother so they cant stand in the way of global collectivism is failing.

    Nationalism will not be so easily thwarted.
     
  3. Etbauer

    Etbauer Banned

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    You hold russia up as a model to be emulated?
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    PUTIN ATTACKED AMERICA AND YOU ARE MAKING PITIFUL EXCUSES TO KISS HIS ARSE?

    And I guess world wide multi national sanctions on Russia organized and imposed by Obama and (clinton), getting kicked out of the G7 by Obama, expelling diplomats and seizing property by Obama isn't nearly as tough as Trump's partial implementation of congressional sanctions and his expulsion of diplomats. Meanwhile Trump is arse kissing Putin and engaging in outrageous partisan politics while on the world stage.

    Nah, why not appease Russia and let them get away with all their nefarious deeds. I mean it isn't in your backyard so why should you give a flying fazooo?
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is standard procedure in digital forensic analysis to take a mirror of both disk and a memory dump. These digital replications contain far more information than just having the server, because when you turn the server off you lose RAM and hackers write "fileless" malware that resides only in memory so there isn't any trace on disk. So, having the server is necessary or even desirable.



    The FBI and the DOJ have in the past 2 years have a track record of being completely bias, you only have to the recent Strok hearing, where someone with a known complete bias against the president is still allowed to be an employee of the state. They have overlooked the Clinton emails which were one of the ways hackers were able to attack the DNC in the first place!!!

    So this is in actuality the DOJ and the FBI in a massive conspiracy to blame russia for the russian GRU attacking america.
    Because they are butt hurt that hillary lost, no doubt.

    Whataboutery is not a justification or a "get outta jail free" card. Its fallacious bullshit designed as a deflective justification.

    Okay you seem completely divorced from reality or your actual exposure to those with level heads is non existent, because he is anything but level headed.

    If clinton were in power? - get the hell over it, she aint, Seems you can't get over all those fallacious nightmares of the evil witch to focus on the reality of now. TRump is president and he is blowing it badly.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you think trump's appeasement is okay because you think Obama appeased Putin in making his foreign policy decisions.

    There is no excuse. There is no justification. Trump's performance was disgusting and Putin won hands down. Meanwhile the idiot is coming back to a shitstorm HE HIMSELF CREATED WITH HIS OWN BEHAVIOR AND WORDS.

    He called America stupid and responsible along with russia. he couldn't see any reason why Russia would attack america.

    A sad day for America and the world. Meanwhile Vladdie and the gang are partying hearty with a stunning victory.
     
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    What all this boils down to is that leftist Americans are blaming Putin for . . . wait for it . . . the incompetence and stupidity of their own Establishment; how effing dumb is that?
     
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    It was Trump that put in missiles in Poland after Obama decided not to do it after Putin told him it could start a war if he did.

    It was Obama who was caught on open mike telling Russia he would be able to to work with them better after the election.

    It was Trump that gave Ukraine the weapons they needed to protect the country against Russian back insurgents after Obama refused to.

    Its been said that there was little to no effect on Russian interference in our election.

    We have also interfered in other country;s elections, especially in Central and South America.

    I remember when Reagan tried to keep the Russians out of our back yard in Central America and got condemned by the Left.

    Why is it the Left has two sets of policies depending on who is doing the same thing? It's always wrong when the Right does it and right when the Left does it.
     
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    And also a little bit for a direct and coordinated attack against our country, the annexation of crimea, autocratic dictatorial rule, human rights violations... but I mean yeah for sure it's def 99% because we are soooo in love with hillary.
     
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    LMAO....hahahahahahaha......damn. He was given evidence which he had IGNORED and it had zero with the media. Is your day job with the FBI?? If not then all this you just posted is pure nonsense rant. Thanks for laugh anyway, it was pure entertainment.
     
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    Government employees should not be affiliated to any party, so yes. They should all be fired, we pay public servants to uphold the law!!!!!!!

    This is one is easy, he could of easily not run for president and not had to deal with the Left's BS. Running for president meant that he got a pay cut.

    Trump has set records in terms of unemployment.

    Do you need more cases where Trump has worked in the best interest of the American people???

    Trump isn't the one trying to start world war 3. The Democrats and the DNC are.
     
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    I'll counter that crap by (unusual for an atheist I know, but . . . ) quoting a biblical passage, which will hopefully cause you to reflect upon it: 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.' which is another way of saying 'Your country has done, or is doing, exactly the same ****'? How are your hypocrite levels for today?
     
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    Show me the evidence.
     
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    According to Trump, none of this happened. I guess he lied......again.
     
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    Go talk to your colleague at the FBI. I don't pretend to be working for them like you do.
     
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    Got it. So Trump is on an "apology" tour of his own. You say it's horrid when Obama did it, but now you are fine with Trump. How are YOUR hypocrite levels for today.
     
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    Lol, you have any ideas that aren't 100% unrealistic, impossible to make happen, and wouldn't bankrupt and destroy the country to attempt to enact?
    I don't think so, I'm pretty sure he was dead broke and running out of credit. As president he is paying back his creditors. Regardless, he obviously wanted to be president desperately.
    Seems to just be continuation of obama era economy.
    One would be nice.
    Trying to start ww3? Or just trying not to give putin free reign to do whatever he wants?
     
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    Good to know you have so much blind faith (note those two words?) in your security services - wish that I had as much in mine.
     
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    I see. So, when is trump's press conference telling the world that 9/11 and ww2 were our fault? When are we planing to remove all tariffs on all other countries? When are we going to end all sanctions on all countries? I mean America is a terrible terrible place right? we can't judge anyone, so welcome to the utopia in which there are no consequences for any actions against us.
     
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    I haven't made any comment on Obama - although I still miss seeing him bounce down the steps of Air Force One . . .



    Oops!! It might have been worse though - can you imagine it? :roflol:
     
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    Most of that nonsense in a non sequitur not worthy of a reply.
     
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    lol, love it when people get backed into a corner so badly they start making excuses.
     
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    As I said before, there was nothing to gain by trying to trash Russia for doing the same thing we are guilty of. Trump is doing the right thing, trying to build better relations with Russia, while holding them in check.It's time to take new moves in our handling Russia and China. We need Russian help With Syria, Iran and N. Korea. How do you expect to do that by trashing them before the world?
     
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    Well you must admit that it's a bit rambling? [​IMG]
     
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    I mean... he could have just not gone on stage and made out with him, and thanked him for attacking us.
     

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