Seymour Hersh - Seth Rich Was Wikileaks Contact

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  1. cerberus

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    I actually believe that (the demonizing) to be more apropos of keeping recalcitrant NATO members in line than anything else, in the sense that, by hyping it up (you know - the 'Russian aggression'? :roll: ), The Donald will be less likely to shut up shop if the defaulting members don't come up with the goods so far as the 2% of GDP membership fees are concerned.
     
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    It was the Yanks, Cerb, who insisted that Murray be sacked. They pressured Tony Blair, who in turn, told Jack Straw to do the evil deed (HERE).
     
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    "edited by the Foreign Office, with areas blacked out in the “interests of national security”.

    If effing government spent more time running the country efficiently than ****ing about in the black arts, the UK wouldn't be such a shithole.
     
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    I wonder Jeanette, Cerberus:

    Did Julian Assange ever address why Sanders still endorsed Hillary long after it was discovered she rigged the vote on Bernie ?


    For all this phony Democrat Hillary, Bernie worship: audience member asks Bernie about the additional cost of F-35 malfunction in a radio podcast. He gives Bernie the costs . Bernie states his insistance the F-35 is the 'fighter jet of the future' sounding very much like 'B-1 Bob Dornan' did in the 1980's. The billion dollar B-1. What a fraud.

    Pres. Trump wanted to stop the F-35.


    So ask Michael Moore, Wikileaks, Kol-bert, Stewart, Maher, Maddow, Olber-dork, or Assange:


    After we spent one trillion on a fleet of F-35s, and it's costly malfunction upgrades :

    who is the enemy ?
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    Who wins: the war profiteers, the CIA, Westinghouse/GE, NBC, Dynacorp ?

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    DynCorp, General Dynamics JV to Pursue
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    Translation: not a neocon blowhorn like you
     
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    Oh Jeannette -

    Do you see why I say things like "Nobody knows who Manning really is though. Or Snowden. Or Assange. Greenwald lies all day long on astroturf Demcracy Now, and Jeremy Scahill back from Af-Pak boycotted the Syria Peace Conference." ?

    I admire your dedication. Your kind of unpaid blogger tirelessness created Huffington Post before
    Arriana sold it from under the Anti-War Left for $250 million. Wayne Madsen said once, he had heard Huffington was 'a social climber, not to be trusted.' Arriana sold Huffington Post back to the
    Globalist, Pro-War Time Warner/CNN. So all the tireless work of the unpaid bloggers who worked
    all night, driven to impeach Bush-Cheney, get justice for the Iraqis, and stop the killing, went to dust. Arriana Huffington sold it right back to the Elites, where it died a tabloid mess. But then Arriana was the wife of a staunch Right Wing Senator, Arrianna was a rabid Ann Coulter type who debated Al Franken on what was 'the Left' on the early days of Politically Incorrect. Then, she got a divorce, turrned "Liberal", and came out as gay.

    Zero Hedge - like 'the Saker' - was run by Tyler Durden, who we all thought was a person, because he had his photo next to his articles. Tyler Durden, we find out 10 years later ... is not a person.

    "Zero Hedge is an English-language blog that aggregates financial and political news and presents editorial opinions from original and outside sources. The news portion of the site is written by a group of editors who collectively write under the pseudonym "Tyler Durden" (a character from the novel and film Fight Club)."

    (Wikipedia)

    read also:

    The real identities of 'Tyler Durden'
    and Zero Hedge have been revealed

    '
    'Ivandjiiski worked in a hedge fund before being kicked out of the securities industry during the height of the financial crisis in 2008 for insider trading, the report says.

    Backshall frequently tweets under the handle @credittrader and has made appearances on CNBC. In 2012, for example, Backshall appeared on CNBC by phone to discuss the credit default swap market. The screenshot below is taken from that appearance.



    'Since the Bloomberg post was published, Zero Hedge has posted a rebuttal to the article, alleging that much of what Lokey says is in fact untrue, and that Lokey is "an emotionally unstable, psychologically troubled alcoholic with a drug dealer past, as per his own disclosures."

    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-men-behind-zero-hedge-have-been-unmasked-2016-4
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-29/full-story-behind-bloombergs-attempt-unmask-zero-hedge

    We also had the conversation about The Saker before:







    Of course - I've been IP banned from ICH ever since I sent that email, and told Paul Roberts 'the Saker' was Aleksandar Jovanovic ex-NATO, after he endorsed 'the Saker' in an OP-ED and still endorses the god awful ICH Democrat Party, blind leading the blind, dittoheads only blog.

    Who is the Saker?
    30, 2015

    "The Grand Strategist he is not. I did my research on Andrei Raevsky aka the Saker ex post facto and determined that he was a Swiss citizen who had already some difficulties with the Russians with respect to Chechnya. By his own admission, he was sent there as an employee of the International Red Cross and subsequently fired for his pro-Chechen bias. He later went on record in several published works as being critical of the Russian Army’s “heavy-handed approach” towards the Chechen terrorists.

    He was then apparently hired on by the United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research (UNIDIR) out of Geneva, which sent him on several tours to ex-Yugoslavia, specifically, he claims to have been involved in "disarmament negotiations" (which can only have been detrimental to the local Serbs) in Croatia and Bosnia. Having thus cemented his friendship with the Serbs, he immigrated to the USA and underwent further grooming at the Paul H. Nitzke School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University, the happy hunting ground of the likes of Madeleine Albright, Condoleeza Rice. He now lives on the Atlantic coast of the state of Florida within a stone’s throw of some 30 military installations who have no problems with his primary activities: broadcasting war against the phantom “Anglo-Zionist empire” (in the cartoon where the Western sponsored ISIL are the good guys) and soliciting donations from his (chiefly left-leaning) supporters in exchange for kitschy wallets imprinted with the Saker image, and autographed copies of his book. Like any good apologist for Islam, Raevsky is also a rabid anti-Semite."


    http://cirilizovano.blogspot.com/2015/11/who-is-saker.html


    :arrow::arrow::arrow::arrow::arrow::arrow::arrow:

    The Liberal Media - Rest In Peace
    By Stephen Lendman
    8-3-10

    '
    The New York Times never qualified, run exclusively as a voice for power and privilege. The same, of course, holds for virtually all mainstream publications, including the Nation magazine, suppressing, sanitizing, and distorting truths, betraying its readers since 1865.

    Its founding prospectus said it "will not be the organ of any party, sect, or body. It will, on the contrary, make an earnest effort to bring to the discussion of political and social questions a really critical spirit, and to wage war upon the vices of violence, exaggeration, and misrepresentation by which so much of the political writing of the day is marred."

    Today it claims "Nobody owns the Nation....We are a wholly owned subsidiary of our own conscience."

    Yet, in disservice to its readers, its record since inception has been shameless. It was unapologetic about slavery, then didn't support minority, labor, or women's rights. It championed 19th century laissez fare, attacked the Grangers, Populists, trade unions and socialists. In 1999, it called the US/NATO Serbia/Kosovo aggression "humanitarian intervention."

    After 9/11, it backed the official explanation despite convincing evidence debunking it. Initially it supported the Iraq war, and until recently the Afghan one. More on that below.'


    It also ignored the blatant 2000 fraud for George Bush, claimed "no evidence" showed the 2004 election was stolen, and in January 2006, ran an offensive full-page anti-Muslim ad titled, "Arabian Fables," claiming Palestinians are prone to violence and deception. Two months later, it said Haiti's Jean-Bertrand Aristide was "feared and despised," then blamed Haitians for their own misery.'

    https://rense.com//general91/peace.htm




    R.I.P. Progressives

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    Oh dear. Say it ain't true. Tyler Durden is not a person.

    Blimey!

    Or could it just mean that Zero Hedge fully adopts the convention used by all newspapers who have articles written by a "staff reporter" when they don't care to put a name on a piece? Or who sometimes use a fictitious name that likewise, is not a person, but a so called "house name"?

    It's often a useful device. And they don't get an expense account either. Quids in all round.

    Anyway, the output of Zero Hedge was so great that it was obvious that it could not possibly have been by one person.

    Here's Tyler Durden in action again yesterday:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...-agents-funneled-400-million-clinton-campaign
     
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    I am no neocon.. In fact I despise them.
     
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    LOLOL.. Zero Hedge has a new conspiracy every week or so...
     
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    That's just as true for the NYT's and WaPO - and the rest of them - as it is for Zero Hedge.

    All of them carry some very decent stories too. These days one has to pick and choose which story to ignore and which to read and do it very carefully too. Reliability in journalism is dead.
     
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    I wonder how Julian Assange plans to lead the Wikileaks
    and the Anti-War Left from Ecuador if he gets safe passage ...

    That is, if he is who he says he is ...

    The Julian Assange Show on RT was awfully milquetoast for a supposed 'radical'. Kind of like when Snowden reads from cue-cards.​


    A few notes on your list of 'brillliiant' people
    and the value of Parallel Left front groups (Nil):


    A. Chomsky endorsed Killery
    B. Cohen was a rabid, pro-war Cold Warrior on PBS
    C. Gloria Steinem admitted working for CIA as infiltrator
    D. Katrina vanden Heuvel, see The Liberal Media - Rest In Peace
    E. Michael Moore, unconstitutional, illegal removal of the Pres.







    The Liberal Media - Rest In Peace
    By Stephen Lendman

    'In response to Obama's Nobel Peace Prize award, vanden Heuvel was effusive in her October 11, 2009 article titled, "The Burden & The Nobel," calling it "an ingenious leap of faith - the endorsement of the hope and the promise represented by America's new President....I think those who argue that the Prize is cheapened are just plain silly.

    The Prize doesn't go to only those who succeeded in their efforts, nor is it a lifetime achievement award. Instead, it is often and wisely given to endorse and encourage those who are working to bring about a better and more peaceful world."



    https://rense.com//general91/peace.htm


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    I doubt Assange will be granted safe passage. The west doesn't give a damn about the rule of law.
     
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    You are on the neocon, defense contractor, western banking party bus. In fact, I think you were contracted to paint it with party colors
     
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    As long as you have access to the internet it matters not a damn where you are domiciled.

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    You really need to get your facts straight. Assange only claims it was not a Russian who gave him the hacked emails. He has offered no proof it was not the Russians who hacked them in the first place.
     
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    That Assange befriended Snowden as an ally was probably unavoidable. They sort of scratch each others backs, validate each others cause. But when Snow-job started to bad mouth Russia and Putin like his Hollywood, Deep State counterparts, I thought it sounded like that Snowden had gotten the script from the handlers, from upstairs at Langley. Snowden bad mouthing Russia just at this time seems a little - how convenient, huh - as if made to order by the Deep State ... if I were Putin, I'd hand Snowden over to U.S. officials, not for concessions ... but because the dope doesn't know what day it is, nerd.

    ... why anyone would weight to anything Snowden of the trickster CIA says is beyond me - why just because Snowden gave you a few stolen 'secrets' already in the news 10 times over ? ... why would anyone give weight to anything Snowden of the trickster CIA says ? ... because Julian Assange or some media person said Ed was a hero ?


    Michael Moore wants Pres. Trump " in chains " now ?

    These Hollywood tweets are so childish.

    Hey Hollywood, drugs are baad, mmmkay ? :weed:

    Hollywood Melts over Trump-Putin Summit:
    ‘Arrest’ this ‘Treasonous’ ‘Urine Lapper’


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    https://www.breitbart.com/big-holly...n-summit-arrest-this-treasonous-urine-lapper/


    And when you read Assanges piece, "Google is Not What it Seems" (When Google Met Wikileaks excerpt) by Julian, you can look at it one of two ways. Julians inside info, or Assange giving the Deep State a platform to talk directly to Left Wing, " the Net Roots," voters, and social media users. In the article I posted, the Google guy starts talking about how R2P was created deliberately by Bush, and the NeoCons to be attached directly to American Exceptionalism, as Obama did in speeches, to be used for Iraq invasions, and this supposed connected Google guy starts spewing about all the implications of power the Technocrats have in dictating policy, media influence - like Hollywood barking Russia venom on social media, Twitter rants simultaneously - how convenient.

    After all, Facebook, Zuckerberg was caught manipulating Facebook news feed, responses to agitate readers, maximize ad revenue, manipulate users emotions and had to answer for said deliberate manipulations. It was blatant Technocrat abuse of power. I would say Twitter does much the same thing.



    "Google is Not What it Seems" (When Google Met Wikileaks) excerpt

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...h-our-lives-now.533996/page-4#post-1069246358



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    Why does everyone suddenly trust a sensationalist novelist and a glorified Merry Prankster type above all the USA's Intelligence services? Oh, wait, I know, y'all support Trump and this guy says the whole Russian collusion thing is a Deep State Plot, just like he does.

    Wake up and smell the bullshit, Big Don Did the whole deal Dillwads. The 2016 election was orchestrated on Assange's I-Pad, Putin's Elbrus and Trump's Aurora. We coulda just as well stayed home.
     
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    He has not been given the opportunity to provide the proof he has that it was not the Russians.

    Meanwhile, in a parallel Washington universe where reality and forensic science reigns...

    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/07/15/memo-to-the-president-ahead-of-mondays-summit/
     
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    Chris Hedges writes on Assange facing imminent expulsion from the Ecuadorian Embassy and arrest by British authorities, from whence he will be sent to the US.

    The pettiness and narrow-mindedness of so many Americans - and not a few Brits and Aussie's - over Assange never ceases to amaze me. They do not see, or perhaps do not care to see (or even care) that his future is the future that faces a free media (such as it is, these days, anyway). Perhaps they look forward to living in a Stalin-like state where the media are muzzled and controlled and, as Hedges says, whistleblowers are prosecuted for treason, whereas real treasonous activity gets covered up (see HERE).

    But then again we are now living in an upside down world, so none of us should be surprised.

    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-war-on-assange-is-a-war-on-press-freedom/
     
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    The FBI abused its power so it no longer has the trust of the public
     
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    An excellent piece, as important and meaningful as the observation centuries ago that the earth was not the center of the universe, that the earth was not flat.

    Disobedient Media further expands on the fraud of the official story calling it Russian hacking:

    https://disobedientmedia.com/2018/0...ctment-ignores-evidence-in-the-public-domain/
     
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    Well, I certainly don't support Trump. And yet I can clearly see, even from afar, that the whole crazy, fabricated Russia-gate narrative is so glaringly an obvious Deep State / Democratic Party / failing Hilary deflection ploy, that it hurts my sides when I laugh about all the Americans (and others) who fell for it, and especially those that continue to fall for it.

    By the way, it wasn't "all of the USA's intelligence services". If I remember correctly it was just three of them that sold that daft pup of a story to the American public -- and a select factionalised part of those three in any case, so far as I can see.
     
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    Thanks for that link for Disobedient Media (I've bookmarked it for future visits too). Why am I not surprised? Selecting intelligence to support and bolster a pre-determined decision has been a standard intelligence ploy for a very long time. And yet we see here on this forum, every day, members who don't seem to learn from this history, or unable to adapt their group-think or political bias to reality.
     
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    Nope. I resigned the Republican party in the fall of 2002.
     
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    Gee, I thought that was Hersh telling what he knew. You have to dismiss Hersh, and go after him as a nut job. And you didn't do that. If MSM will not talk to Hersh, and only Duran will, you should see the bigger picture here.

    Hersh has a hard time getting published these days. And why is that? Given he has always had credibility and has had contacts with insiders within the FBI for years?

    MSM blacks out particular people, even real deal journalists, as Hersh is. His credentials speak for themselves. It would be very difficult for anyone to be honest and dismiss the guy, and that is your problem. So you bring up Duran. They just presented the Hersh recording.

    Not to worry though, no one will ever investigate this in order to find out the truth. So your beliefs are safe and sound, even if based upon a ruse and lies.
     

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