Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’ and Gets Killed

Let's take a look at your post again.

You may not have used the words "Tajikistan is controlled by ISIS". You did say , or ask rather, if i thought this ""dumb luck" could be attributed to being in a region of the world controlled by ISIS and other terrorists, whether it was intentional of not on the part of the bicyclists?"

You in a way did make a claim that ISIS controlled that region of the world by placing them and the bicyclists in the same region. And also being controlled by other terrorists. You mentioned the part of the bicyclists being in this same region... whether it was intentional or not on their part. So this region is not controlled by ISIS and other terrorists as in the above claim? Which is it? You could claim you were being vague... or speaking in generalities I guess.

This was probably some rogue group pledging allegiance to ISIS and not really affiliated with ISIS. And Tajikistan is still not on ISIS' doorstep.

 

I can believe it. Seems that wanting something done about the immigration problems in the UK or The US is nearly impossible without being branded an Islamophobe, a racist, a bigot, etc...

Oh, I forgot Nazi.

 

I read this article and all it really claims is that that ISIS is on the rise in Pakistan. Not that ISIS controls any territory within Pakistan. I could not find a statement of any kind claiming that ISIS controls any territory any where in that article. There have been more recent attacks attributed to ISIS... okay.
So... the claim that ISIS controls any territory appears to be false. Is their a presence of ISIS in Pakistan? Possibly, sure. Controlling any areas? No.

 

It is a matter of fact, just not facts that you are able to accept as they pretty much invalidate your point.
All the *stans are shithole country ruled by corupt clanish government who don't really care about what happens outside of the major cities security wise.

Isis has struck out of Afghanistan in the neighboring regions for months now. And yes it was reckless and naive. Just as reckless and naive it would be to sail near the coast of somalia. Many somalian are good people but it isn't those you'll be meeting when they'll board your ship...

 

How does that article contradict anything I wrote?

ISIS has a noticeable presence in Pakistan. But it controls no territory there, and it cannot be described as ISIS’ doorstep. And in any event the cyclists were HUNDREDS of miles away on the OTHER side of Tajikistan. That is clearly also NOT accurately described as ISIS’ doorstep.

 

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/isis-is-in-afghanistan-but-who-are-they-really/
Someone seems to think there are ISIS fighters in Afghanistan The people that killed the bicyclists claimed to be ISIS.
I'll let you work out the details.

I think the mail point is that idealistic bicyclists were killed by terrorists because they believed evil isn't real and they
found out differently after traveling in a region Canada, the UK and New Zealand all issued travel advisories for.

 

They became realistic Conservatives.......but it was just a wee bit too late. I will go ahead and jointly bestow upon them the Amy Biehl Award for 2018........

 

You mean facts like four cyclist got killed by ISIS fighters? The fact that Canada, the UK and New Zealand all issued travel advisories
for that region?

You aren't interested in facts. You are only interested in rationalizing some reckless foolish behavior.

 

Them dying proved the opposite of their point.

So was it really worth it?

No. It wasn’t. It just proved hippies will be eaten by Darwinism as time goes on.

 

Jay Austin was a very experienced cyclist. His friend Lauren had some significant miles on her side also, mostly after she met Austin.

A couple of very experienced guys in the local cycling club here went to Australia. That sounds like a much better touring location to me even if you have to run fatter tires in the bush and lose miles per day.

"Chaostan (pronounced chaos-tan) is the land of the Great Chaos. The area from the Arctic Ocean to the Indian Ocean, and Poland to the Pacific, plus Africa, Chaostan contains thousands of nations, tribes and ethnic groups who have hated and fought each other for centuries.

For seven decades the Kremlin sat on Chaostan like a lid on a pressure cooker. In 1989, the lid blew off. Since then, more than 100 wars have erupted, killing over five million, nearly all in Chaostan."

https://www.earlywarningreport.com/chaostan.html

imo make your decisions about where to ride with grit in every decision.

 

There is pure evil in this world. Ask our service members who have spent time in that part of the world.

Let's not rationalize; let's not excuse. It's just effing evil. In their final moments, this couple must have realized that.

 

I'm shocked. Are you saying they are not the definitive fact checking site as they claim? Surely the founders BS in Information Technology makes him an expert on just about everything. I mean like his own bio on the Snopes web site says he had "...20+ years experience researching and writing about the facts behind a multitude of topics."

 

Every time a U.S. made Hellfire missile or laser guided bomb lands on the head of some ISIS or AQ dirtbag, the world owes the American taxpayer a "thank you", for we have done the world a favor.

You're welcome.

 

Hilarious!

 

When you're riding along not harming a soul and suddenly they run you down with an SUV and then knife you, that's EVIL in action. That's endemic in the human condition.

It's the EVIL that ISIS has called for: lone wolf attacks on Westerners everywhere by all means possible, with special mention of vehicles and knives as easily obtained modalities of murder.

 

Are you serious, they have 10s of thousands of members in Pakistan. You don't think they have areas where they are in control. That's like saying the Crips don't control any areas in the US.

 

Okay... I never made the claim that there weren't any ISIS attacks or fighters in Afghanistan... or any where. All I've said it that this was probably some rogue group pledging allegiance to ISIS and not really affiliated with ISIS. This is not me saying it isn't ISIS either. Just a gut feeling, an opinion. There are pockets of them all over, but the only territory they control is in Syria now. They have lost a lot of ground and are striking out elsewhere and in different areas to make themselves seem like a bigger presence than they probably really are. They are losing. We want them to be losing, yes? We need to stop thinking they are a bigger threat than they most likely are and remain vigilant and stomp them out where ever they pop up. We need to stomp out terrorists where ever they are, and we do.

And I have already stated that this incident could change how the US State Department views this area moving forward. I hope they do.

 

10s of thousands? I've googled those numbers (heres what i got... https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS753US753&ei=Pvt4W4S0GOjgjwTp6IyACw&q=10,000+isis+pakistan&oq=10,000+isis+pakistan&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i22i29i30k1l7.567466.571913.0.576969.20.16.0.0.0.0.475.1943.6j3-3j1.10.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..10.8.1228...0j35i39k1j0i67k1j0i131k1j0i20i264k1.0.ee0f7DbxLoI). I keep seeing varying reports from sources claiming that Russia made up the numbers to others saying they were barely there to begin with to it's not as bad as it seems to it's worse than it seems. Mostly dating back several years. Maybe you can help out with some links because I'm coming up empty. So without any concrete proof and from decent sources I'm not sure what to believe. I'd like to think they are losing. They lost most of what they were trying to hold onto in Iraq and Syria.

I don't believe that the Crips or any gangs have control of areas of the US. Thats a bit of a stretch I think. Are you saying we have No Go Zones here in the US? I would hope not. These gangs could be taken out easily if need be. The war on drugs is a racket on both sides so gangs are allowed to operate in some areas unless they get too greedy or forget what can happen to them. An old friend of mine has been in the gang unit task force in Chicago going on 15 years now. Some areas they will bust, others they will not. He said if they felt like it they could have guard units and military drones take them completely out if necessary... but that's bad for business.

You are giving these characters way too much credit. Are you actually wanting them to be controlling areas in large numbers? I don't... and I don't think they are except for in Syria. Are there nomadic and roaming pockets of ISIS fighters? Most likely there are. I want them taken out and having what survivors escape to be hunted down and taken out while on the run... and I believe our military has been doing a relatively decent job of taking them out with the help of the locals and our allies. With what I'm reading from some here it's almost as if Bagdad Bob might have some competition. I hope not. These bastards are on the run... let's keep it that way and take them down.

 

In the US it is attending school that is dangerous.

 

"stupid is as stupid does". Forrest Gump

 

And this is what these filthy dems want to bring to the US by taking down borders and confiscating our guns. These ****ing dems will do anything to take down the USA by any means necessary.

Well, one good thing is...2 less to vote for destroying America.

It may sound heartless, but what is the alternative? The destruction of America by adopting treasonous democratic delusions.

 

Or a peace picnic in Chicago.

 

Well, yes and no.

The Islamic terrorist problem has exponentially increased due to the foreign policies and actions of certain Western countries with the US being the ring leader.

 

Just more evidence, imo, of the true cost of religious belief. This world will be better off once we all forsake the yoke of religion and its hate filled premises.

Islam is at the forefront, right ahead of the catholic church. Hideous, hate filled agendas.

 

I used to think so, now I disagree. The fundamentals of Islam are ruinous and hate filled. Islam is a scourge on this entire planet - along with the rest of organized religion.