Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’ and Gets Killed

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  1. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I used to think so, now I disagree!! 93% of all documented wars were not religious based. Also, everyone has beliefs, the problem arises when they wish to harm others; this is called 'Mental Illness'. Some try to hide behind a religion but they're simply mentally ill. Many criminals are atheists, so equally it could be said that not having a religion is, "Just more evidence, imo, of the true cost of atheism. This world would be better off once we all forsake the yoke of atheism and it's hate filled premises."

    BTW, I'm agnostic.

    Why doesn't a Muslim neighbour want to kill you. Why doesn't an atheist neighbour want to kill you. But why does another Muslim or atheist etc.. want to kill you? Because the ones that want to are mentally ill.
     
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    Bullshit. Atheism doesn't have a doctrine, like Islam, that proclaims itself to be "the last true revelation". That itself engenders violence.

    Islam is a hate filled, rape filled, disgusting batch of inhumane nonsense and it needs to be treated as such. Once we demolish it, we can start with Christianity.
     
  3. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is the source of your confidence?

    Here's my source, it's one of many but I quickly linked this one. It's the book, "The Encyclopedia of Wars" that's the main point.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/11/14/religions-war-cause-responsible-evidence_n_6156878.html

    The Encyclopedia of Wars, an extensive study published in 2008, chronicles 1,763 wars throughout human history. It names just 123 as 'religious in nature' – a little under 7%.

    So research shows that religion was responsible for 7% of wars.

    Take the Iraq war led by Bush and Blair. Was this due to religion? So who's religion? What is Bush's and Blair's religion? Or was it due to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, Saddam's atrocities? So how many casualties of the Iraq war were they?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

    Yes, there are many Islamic nut jobs, and Christian ones, and atheist ones too, etc.. You find the Islamic stories always hit the news, the subject sells stories, that's the media's objective.
     
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  4. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Internet lag - duplicate post - no delete option on forum.
     
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    Oh, please. I don't see Christians beheading infidels, or blowing them up with mortar shells en masse, or shooting them point blank with shotguns. There is a difference between holy wars and nihilistic genocide. Islam is a death cult.
     
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    All understood but still one has to be aware enough to understand what a repressive, backwards haven for terrorists Afghanistan has been.
    If you live next door to a notorious crime ridden crack house you don't let your kids play out in your front lawn. Not if you care about your kids you don't.

    Austin and Geohegan are defended by the left because riding a bicycle through the back roads of Tajikistan sent the message, intentionally or not, that people are good, evil is a made up concept and going out in the world vulnerable and unafraid is better than living behind walls.

    A hard lesson was delivered and the idea that evil is just an imaginary concept has been repudiated.
     
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    LOL!

    You got beat up a lot as a kid, didn't you?
     
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    Thank you for providing a stat supporting something I have stated countless times in countless discussions such as this one.

    I often see people state "religion is responsible for more deaths than any other institution". That is just a public admission of ignorance, as I have always known that most wars - and most of the deadliest wars - were not based around religion. I am glad to have an actual stat to support something I always intuitively knew.
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Correct about the beheadings, wrong about mortar shells or your knowledge of WWI and WWII is lacking. Tell me, how many school massacres were by Muslims? What religion was the guy shooting from the Las Vegas hotel room?

    The vast majority of people understand that you have bad apples within Islam, Christianity, Atheism etc... and tend to hate those bad apples. There's a minority that hate religion or specific religions and all those that follow that religion. The latter are brainwashed and have a phobia with religion.
     
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  10. Nonnie

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    @Aphotic I would agree Islam has it's cult element, as in, "There's a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or as imposing excessive control over members".

    This is prevalent in all religions and atheism. Do you disagree? So what religions do Ku Klux Klan cult members have?
     
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    There is this.


    And now this.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks
     
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    The point is one cannot look at Islam as a few bad apples.
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what's the ratio of bad apples in all religions and atheism?
     
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    Oh, I absolutely agree that Afghanistan has gotten worse instead of better. Troop drawdowns after Bin Laden was killed was a mistake, imo. I think the troop drawdown was completed in late 2016. We went from around 80,000+ In 2011 to around 8,000 by the end of 2016. I think Trump sent maybe an additional 1,000 or more in 2017, but not nearly what might be needed. So might be around 10,000 about now. I have a nephew serving, but he’s only been in around a year now, and he says there might be another bump of around 1,000 or more coming soon. His unit probably won’t be part of the bump though.

    Oh evil is definitely out there. Acting like it doesn’t exist is a bit short sighted and naive, I’ll agree to that point too.
     
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    I don't think there is data available to answer this question with respect to all religions and atheism.
     
  17. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then the two phrases are correct -

    1) In Islam, there are a few bad apples.

    2) You can't view Islam as a few bad apples.
     
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    The Koran is against you !!!

     
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    There are more than a few bad apples in Islam. Look at what he happening in Europe, e.g., no go zones and so forth.
     
  20. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what's the ratio of bad apples in all religions and atheism?

    We've hit a meaningless loop.
     
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    Maybe in the sense of taking shortcuts to simplify (or oversimplify) things it has its uses as a concept. For when we just don't want to apply a complicated analysis to an unpleasant set of actions. I have a much easier time understanding running over foreigners than some other actions we hear about: Dehumanizing ones enemies, after their government showed a disregard and disdain for your religion and other things you hold dear; I mean, even in America look at how we acted towards Americanized "Japs" during WWII, and we were the good guys in WWII. Harder to understand the other thing in the news with the guy who apparently strangled his wife and daughters. I mean, maybe I could figure it out, but I can understand just wanting to call him evil and be done with it.
     
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    I'm sorry, Nonnie. I cannot excuse their barbarism. I do not excuse it.

    And it is not simply Western countries that they victimize. Those degenerates commit horrendous acts of cruelty against fellow Muslims ... all ... the ... time.
     
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    Darwin gives,
    Darwin takes away:

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    The whole premise of this thread is wrong. This had nothing to do with proving people are all good all over. These were two cyclists meeting other cyclists for a trip on one of the most popular bike routes in the world. Right wing disinformation as always.
     
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    Islam has millions upon millions of crazy bad apples. Entire countries full of them. No other religion produces that much crazy. Cathlics are a distant 2nd and they pale in comparison with a some nutty priests. Still not blowing themselves up or chopping off people’s heads or tossing anyone off roofs.
     
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