Huge Russian military exercise in September

Tskhinvali. South Ossetia.
The OSCE mission and the JCC mission.

There had been a history of violence on this border for many years. With both Ossetians and Georgians killing each other.

They had a team of international observers, the OSCE, and then 3 troop deployments.
Russian, Ossetian and Georgian. 100 Russian soldiers, the JCC, plus 2 in the OSCE.

When the invasion kicked off, The Russian soldiers were besieged by Georgians in Tskhinvali. A few of them died.
The Russian response was basically retold by the people involved as rapid reaction to save them.

Donald Trump personally rescued them. And that is why they rigged the election for him.

 

Not that I agree, but at least you addressed Russian behavior.

 

If you own everything but no white vest in terms of your own bad behavior ... then you should be more careful with allegations against others, eh?

Most Russians live in Donbass and in Crimea, and if they feel oppressed, then it is normal for Russia to react. And in Georgia there is a minority that is clearly repressed by the Georgian government ... only the US does not want to know and see because Georgia = friend! And we know how to see American hypocrisy over crimes of friends on several occasions ...

 

You mean Georgia.

 

Correct. But that does not change the fact that you have not addressed the behavior of certain foreign influences TO WHICH the Russian behavior was directed.

Russia's interests were attacked and threatened by foreign forces. THAT is what you refuse to address, and the reasons for your refusal are easy to understand.

 

Then why do American and European media call terrorists those who kill the occupiers in Iraq for example?

 

And that is the point! Very good post!

O wonder ... not only the US has its zone of influence and area of interest ... so let's say "front garden" ... in which you do not let anyone else dance around, but also Russia has the same right for all!

Hypothetically, let's say that Venezuela somehow teams up with China. China is incredibly thirsty for oil, Venezuela has it. Venezuela needs help and China is powerful enough to do that. Fits ... and let's say that Venezuela allows China to run one or two military bases with it. I hardly believe that Washington shrugs here and the US forces will quickly show Venezuela that it was a very bad decision with China, eh?

Conversely, since the end of the Cold War, the West not only respects every respect, but dances in the area of the former USSR right up to Russia's borders ... and does not give a **** about what Russia thinks of it!
History shows that it has never been smart to annoy the Russian bear too much ...

 

More deflection. America invading Cuba justifies Russia annexing the Crimea?

Sounds like Hitler going after the Sudetenland.

So, the Bear steps in to protect the Russian minority! Bless ol' Putin--he's bringing Russian democracy to parts of Georgia.

 

With all due respect and here I defend in principle also Russia once again ... and as much as we have the same opinion as far as Iraq is concerned Destroyer:

Please be careful with the term terrorist in principle, because he is now misused as a term by all for discrediting enemy insurgents.
The FSA in Syria are terrorists for you, not for the West. The YPG Kurds are terrorists for the Turks, but not for you and not for the US. You see what I mean?

 

I dont give a rat's ass about Russia in Krimea or Georgia.
Why do you?

 

Except that it's not Hitler and it's not the Sudetenland.
Studies of n=1 have no bearing.

 

Let's get you up to speed on modern geography. Yours seems out of date.
I hope this will serve to calm your Russian Derangement Syndrome.



The size of the military forces here, should bring home the realpolitik of the situation you are trying so hard to deny.
Crimea is in Russia.
By popular consent of both Russians and Crimeans.
Backed up by people who can whoop your arse.


You live, here.

Which is why what you think about there, doesn't matter.

 

Abkhazia and South Ossetia are recognized as states by Russia, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Nauru, and Syria. Who are you kidding?

Looks as though I'm in good company.

 

Did you have ... if also amateurish ... tried: Bay of Pigs?
And how many times has the CIA tried to assassinate Castro?
And that his predecessor - Batista was a mafia - smeared, brutal oppressor of the people and brought and supported by the US to the power, you forget that, eh?

At first glance, perhaps, but not at second glance!
Hitler was concerned with the reversal of the Versailles Treaty and a Greater Germany ... especially in the direction of the East.
Sure, the West also accuses Putin for the same ... so Great Russia etc. But funny that he had a problem with Ukraine first, after the Maidan and especially after our idiots in the governments offered Ukraine directly the EU and NATO membership.
In 2009, during another crisis in Ukraine before, where the same idiots were publicly discussing with the EU and NATO for Ukraine, he clearly warned what happened then ... only then did they not take him seriously and laugh at him. I hardly believe that one of them still laughs, eh?

As you have brought to Iraq and many others?

 

Russia just has to sit there and take it or else they are "aggressors" in the eyes of the little john Wayne's, sitting in their armchairs with hard-ons, playing x-box war games

 

The word "terrorist" has become nothing but a term for propagandists IMO. It is used to inflame passions and fears, nothing more.

Orwell noted to the effect that once the language (and its words, of course) is corrupted sufficiently, what follows naturally is the corruption of the thought processes.

If the words lose their meaning, how humans think will be gravely effected.

 

Newspeak has "conservatives" cheering on the big liberal government, new world order.
Makes me want to puke.

 

Hitler saved German soldiers when he invaded Poland, no?

 

I taught history for years. Why do you care why I'm interested?

 

Just an observation.

 

Congratulations

 

I thought you wanted to talk about Russia?

In answer to your question?
I don't know.

You are willing to compare Russians to Hitler, but not to America.
How about we skip Russia and just compare Hitler to America?

I assure you it won't be that hard to make comparisons.

 

Observations have no predictive probability

 

Anecdotes predict future events, haven't you heard?

 

Actually, the opinion of the US matters - residents of Crimea can’t use PayPal, payments systems such as Visa or Master Card, and are pretty much cut off from civilization. If they want something they must go to mainland Russia or Ukraine. If they want to travel to other countries they must obtain visas in Kiev. If the US government does not recognize Crimea being part of another nation than all American companies must use Ukraine and Kiev to do business there and to pay taxes. While one might think who cares about a McDonalds in Sevastopol, you must remember that American business goes really far - internet commerce like eBay, PayPal, Amazon, Google; as well as services - MS Office, SQL and others. You can’t activate an iPhone in Crimea. And there are rumors that Microsoft is going to switch its OS to subscription service, at least for business, which means that 5-10 years down the road most of Crimean businesses will have to find alternative software to run their day to day operations, or stick with very old pirated software, which might not even be compatible with new generation of chipsets.
The region will effectively be sliding into Stone Age.