Honest Question For Republicans -- Why Don't You Want Minorities To Vote??

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  1. Mac-7

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    There are examples of individual voter fraud on both sides

    But only liberals resist voter id which would stop voter fraud on election day
     
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    Says he who willfully misrepresented the Republican stance on the issue.
     
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    Stop this farce already. Liberals want illegals ao they can get the votes..they aren't even secretive about this stance
     
  4. Rhym3pays

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    Here is what is going to happen...after I explain to you the history of waller county and voter suppression -- you are going to say "big deal" -- "blame Hillary" or something else stupid..

    What you will not be able to do is show me one example of any democrat official or party being sued for voter suppression anywhere in the country...

    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/201...anding-prairie-view-am-students-voting-rights


    Waller County is the home of historically black college "Prairie View A&M" -- it has a student body that is 82% black -- Waller County is nearly 80% white...for the past 50 years, waller county has actively tried to block these students from voting in their county -- because those voters are black, period...it had nothing to with voter fraud, voter protection, zero -- it had to do with the race of the voter...

    https://www.upi.com/Archives/1992/0...ers-allege-harassment-in-Texas/7349703656000/

    In the 70's, the students took Waller County to court and it went all the way to the Supreme Court, the SC ruled in favor of the students -- but waller county was not done...In the 90's, Waller County indicted 15 students for voter fraud -- even tho they legally voted -- they hoped this tactic would scare students out of voting -- again the students had to fight, the charges were dropped. Waller county tried it again in 2004 -- they threatened to arrest students if they tried to vote, but backed down after student protests and a threat of another lawsuit.

    Now the new trick is to take advantage of the college policy of the students not having on-campus mailboxes -- the college assigns students PO Boxes -- so Waller County told the students to use one of two addresses that they themselves told the students to use --- then suddenly, Waller County says that the one of those addresses is no good and those students registered with that address can't vote --- and you are trying to tell me this isn't another way to get away with voter suppression??

    Can you show me any examples of the democratic party doing this to "likely republican" voters??
     
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    So in other words, if republicans don't release a joint statement that says "we are trying to stop minorities from voting" -- then you won't believe it?

    You do understand it is illegal to blatantly block minorities from voting? Do you know that the Voting Rights Act had a pre-clearance provision that was designed to prevent voters from being targeted? Do you know that the conservative supreme court struck down this provision and ONLY republicans celebrated that? Do you know that since that provision was stuck down, ONLY republicans are trying to go back to suppressing minority voters? Truth hurts and playing dumb isn't a remedy..
     
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    Tell us why you didn't ask the question as it should have been asked: "Why does the GOP want to people from voting illegally?"
     
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    The answer, in a nutshell:

     
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    Well as the the two links about the white woman and the white guy charged with voting twice....great reason to have strong voter ID laws, and stronger laws overall. Great job by law enforcement.

    Weyrich, doesn't mention minorities, he is talking about overall voting in 1980...38 years ago, and he is long since dead, and took some radical views on just about everything, in fact before he died he was speaking out against the GOP.

    I'll continue to ignore your premise that the GOP is trying to suppress minorities until you provide proof of it. You haven't...you've actually highlighted two cases that highlight why it's important to have stronger voting laws due to fraud
     
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    Actually, I don't think that at all. That's the problem with "people like you" - you're prejudice.
     
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    Are you saying minorities are too stupid to be expected to obtain ID?
     
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    In a Democracy all citizens vote.

    Even if the Majority chooses wrongly, the Will of the Majority is the Law.
     
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    Apparently, the people who had sufficient ID to register to vote and sufficient ID to go about their daily lives - including the receipt of public services and assistance - do not have sufficient ID to present at the polling location to vote.
     
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    Unsupportable nonsense.
    Explain then how Bill Clinton won in 1992 and 1996.
     
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    In 1776-1861, the White Majority subjected African Americans to worst Human Rights Violations. But The Will of the Majority is the Law.
     
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    Thankfully we don't live in a democracy.
     
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    Some people claim that our situation would have been better if some people could not vote.

    But then why should anyone vote at all.

    Had UK not lost the Battle of Yorktown, the only person voting for America would have been the Monarch of Britain at least for decades.

    George III would have freed slaves.

    Maybe now America would have been a Welfare State like Canada.
     
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    Presently, not everyone can vote.
     
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    Cant vote or Must change their voter regestration to the correct address?

    If you think bureaucrats only make black people jump through hoops you have led a sheltered life

    Just smile and play the game because cursing at them only makes it worse
     
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  19. Rhym3pays

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    I see you didn't read anything I said....

    This isn't about Voter ID you idiot...all of the voters I have mentioned have proper ID -- but for example in the case of North Dakota -- despite having proper ID, now state officials suddenly have a problem with the ID's having PO boxes on them instead of street addresses, totally ignoring the fact that those who live in tribal reservation areas, NEVER HAD street addresses...now are you trying to say they aren't targeting Native Americans -- who they themselves blamed for losing the 2012 senate race -- oh, did you know this proposal was first introduced right after that senate race??

    In Waller County, TX --- the students there also have proper ID's -- but those students have had to continuously take county officials to court over and over again because despite having proper ID's -- county officials have tried to find other ways to target those students -- every time those students had to file a lawsuit and every time they have won -- and despite that, Waller County continues to try to **** with their right to vote -- currently, just like in North Dakota, they have suddenly claimed a problem with the address on their ID's -- even tho it was the county who told them to use that address


    Now take your own racial bias out of it for a moment be honest -- if this was happening to let's say Cuban voters in Florida -- (who has a history of voting republican) -- and let's say some democratic county members were trying to target them with these same voter suppression tricks -- would you support that? Nope....so why do you play dumb now?
     
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    They can't prevent students from "EVER" voting but they can definitely prevent their votes from being counted in the upcoming elections if those students can't get their registration fixed in time -- which was the point of trying to change it at the last minute...why do you folks continue to try to pretend like you don't know what this is about?
     
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    Dead people are not minorities. In fact they are the majority.
     
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    I like how when I presented the only ACTUAL cases of voter fraud in the last election -- not one republican even addressed it....almost like that type of voter fraud doesn't count because it doesn't fit the bullshit they want to believe....
     
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    Absent a current address, how do you know someone is voting in the right place?
     
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    I honestly wonder if Trump ended the voter fraud investigation early without explanation because it was finding was republicans that were committing all the fraud
     
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    Because they were able to vote in the primaries, no problem...they were able to vote in the previous elections before that...no problem...but when the Senate is won by a Democrat candidate, now its a problem...

    Also, how is the post office able to deliver mail to these people? How can 911 calls find out what address to go to (because they all have 911 addresses) -- in fact, when the voters asked for the state to use those 911 addresses, the state refused -- instead, the state wanted each citizen to file paperwork to get that address from the department that has that information then go back and get their ID's fixed --- which of course won't be done before the election -- by design...

    Again, why do you folks continue to pretend that you don't know what this is really about
     

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