Again ...Palestinian terror Hamas fire rocket on Israeli city 'Beersheba'.

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    I don't care about your alleged personal experience. Source it.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    LOLOL

    BY who. Wiki is write in, and is not good for controversial subjects, like religion, because you get one point of view.

    It is definitely not good for Islam because you get the constant lies to mislead.

    show me where it says that. It does not.

    LOLO

    Google "Battle of the trench", Just on the first 2 pages, you will get 10 different stories, by Islamic scholars.

    LOLOL

    This is one of the many disgraces of Muhammed, where he surrounded an unarmed settlement, the Jews surrendered, and he murdered all the men.
    600 to 900.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    I asked you to source something, and you did not.

    Why do you think others will do it for you.
     
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    Please tell us how he decided on which men he should execute.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Hey, a couple women are mentioned.
    Please tell us what happened to them.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's one...
    https://www.thoughtco.com/is-my-surname-jewish-3972350

    Many Common Jewish Last Names Sound German
    Many of Jewish-sounding surnames are actually German in origin. This may be due to a
    1787 Austro-Hungarian law 404 that required Jews to register a permanent family surname,
    a name they also required to be German. The decree also required that all surnames that
    had previously been used in Jewish families, such as those originating from a place where
    the family lived, should be "totally abandoned." The chosen names were subject to the
    approval of Austrian officials, and if a name was not chosen, one was assigned.

    In 1808, Napoleon issued a similar decree that compelled Jews outside of Germany and
    Prussia to adopt a surname within three months of the decree, or within three months of
    moving into the French Empire. Similar laws requiring Jewish people to adopt permanent
    surnames were passed at various times by different countries, some well into the latter half
    of the 19th century.
     
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    notme Well-Known Member

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    It remains a fact that the accuracy of Wikipedia has been proven.
     
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    Jews did not use last names as a permanent thing. They changed them whenever.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_surname

    The majority of Middle Age surname adoption came from place names, often a town name, typically the birthplace of the founder of a rabbinical or other dynasty. These names would permutate to various forms as families moved, such as the original Welsch becoming Wallach, Wlock or Block. Since these surnames did not have the official status that modern ones do, often the old surname would be dropped and a new one adopted after the family moved their household.

    But good for you to blame others for it.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you are agreeing with me, no?
    Surnames are recent.
    1100 years ago two full blooded brothers in my French-Norman lineage had two different
    surnames.
    Most Jewish names today aren't more than 500 years old, but....

    Lineage (priestly, Levitical, convert) – Primary among lineage names are those associated
    with the traditional Israelite priesthood the kohanim, descended from Aaron the first High Priest
    and the older brother of Moses. While their ritual functions ceased with the destruction of the
    Second Temple in 70CE, many priestly families retained their lineage ties and were given ceremonial
    functions in the synagogue ....Recent DNA studies indicate that there are traceable lines of male
    descent for over 3000 years. Family names were one way to identify this group: Cohen, Kogan,
    Kahane, Kahaneman; Polish Caplan and the acronym Katz for kohen zedeq, ie. authentic priest...
    Similarly, the Levites who assisted the priests in the ancient Temples in Jerusalem either with song
    and instrumental accompaniment or serving as gatekeepers, are represented with a variety of names
    based on the more common Levy: Levine, Levitt, Levitas. The surname Segal born by many Levites is
    explainedas an acronym for segan lekehunah “second to the priest”. There are certain famous Levitical
    families like Horowitz, (Hurwitz, Gurowitz), the descendants of the 16th-17th centuries Rabbi Isaiah
    Horowitz otherwiseknown by his nom de plume Shelah (Shenei Luhot Habrit).

    https://www.bh.org.il/databases/family-names/jewish-family-names-introduction/

    It's amazing that a Jew called Cohen, for instance, most likely traces their line back to the
    Levites who officiated in the temple. The same temple the Arabs claim as their own today.

     
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    That's just ignorant.
    Some stuff is OK.
    Controversial stuff is not, because you get both sides.
     
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    WORKPLACE ACCIDENTS UPDATE: Hamas Commander killed at Gaza border when ‘hand grenade’ exploded prematurely.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But... I thought Gazans were opposed to violence, and went to The Fence peacefully?
    Whence cometh the hand grenade?

    ... maybe.... the Israelis threw it at innocent civilians who were holding a picic, and one
    hapless Palestinian attempted to throw it back quickly, but not quickly enough.
     
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    I sourced what I sourced. My source claims that it OFTEN was the case that people just dropped it when they moved to somewhere else, since it held no official status. That you can come up with exceptions... good for you.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you are speaking to me I can't remember where the discussion had gone,
    and don't have time to trawl through my conversation.
    :(
     
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    Sorry, can't remember the context. Are you saying that people who were Jews
    simply stopped being Jews?
    If that's so then yes, sometimes. But those Jews who thought they were loyal
    Germans, Poles or Spanish got a rude awakening when the persecutions
    restarted.
     
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    I'm saying they dropped their last names all the time and assumed new ones.
     
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    Agreed. For sure - either because of laws, a desire to integrate or a means of
    avoiding persecution.
    But again, Cohen is a name of an ancient line going back to the Levitical
    Priesthood and Moses. Some names don't change.
     
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    My source says they just dropped it because a last name had no official status etc etc. They can't prove their lineage because of that. While there is no such thing that due to your ethnicity alone you get rights to property. But leave it up to the Jews to invent there is such a thing, and say it often enough for you to get so indoctrinated to think it's actually true.
     
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    You have no source for anything.

    Lots of property ownership is based on ethnics.

    Besides, nobody is tough enough to kick them off.
     
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    You're saying that when you're also quoting me with a source. :banana:
     
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    You become a Jew by having a Jewish mother.
    You can become a Jew by converting to Judaism.
    But at a deeper level - you are only a Jew if you
    have significant amount of Jewish genes.
    And now we can test for that.
     
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    So how did Sammy Davis Jr. become a Jew.
     
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    Can't answer that, sorry.
     

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