Again ...Palestinian terror Hamas fire rocket on Israeli city 'Beersheba'.

Yes. It's called "Arab auto majority in UN", they make all the Humanitarian committees and they decide the agenda, that's the only reason all world countries get to have official opinion on Israel every second Thursday. doesn't mean **** on scope or severity.

Yes, they are Lefties and refuse to bomb even at the risk of hitting a few innocents, the numbers in your source are small, nowhere near what it means to drop bombs in markets etc'.

.......Would have resulted in deaths never before seen in Gaza, that's not the case so drop it, how does all this relate to your heroes ? Assad killed hundreds by the week !

Mess with the border and get shot, I dont care what vest they wear while doing it, trying to sneak over or charge over - will get them shot and possibly dead, what else do you want to know about ?

 

Oh bright one, shouldn't the "annexed" land be called "Israel" ? if its annexed....

 

How is it propaganda ? It is Israel trying to claim that it is their land that is propaganda. Don't care what you want to call the area ... It ain't Israel's land and their annexing it is illegal.

 

Exactly now you are on the right page. Israel targets innocents. Glad you finally have stopped denying reality - right, wrong or otherwise.

 

Nope. Just because they stole land from others does not mean nations should recognize what they stole as legitimate.

 

None of what I wrote can qualify as "Targeting innocents", either you dont understand what "target" means or your "innocents" are the kind that goes boom.

 

It is Israel's land, going back for centuries. If there was any 'annexing' going on it was done by the Muslims.

 

But even Israel doesn't call it Israel, so if Israel doesn't award itself - means its not annexed, bright one.

 

Why are 'innocents' firing missiles at Israel? No country should accept that.

 

I made my point clearly .. "needs more work" get real - you have no response is what you mean.

That said - I agree with you that a whole lot of Muslims support terrorism - directly or indirectly. The point I was making was that it is not just supporting terrorism that is the problem .. it is hatred - lack of respect for individual liberty in general and breaking the most fundamental rule that humanity has learned - "Don't do stuff to other that you don't want done to you".

It is violation of these rules that is the root cause of the evil - and of course evil in of itself. Supporting "terrorism" is bad but, if you are against supporting terrorism then you should not be supporting Trump and you should not have supported Obama - you should be railing against the pentagon and the Establishment politicians and elite bureaucrats.

 

I do understand that "target" means. It is when you drop a 1000 lb bomb on civilians and claim .. yeah but there was a bad guy there. Your target was located where bad guy was .. so he was targeted but you knew there were many civilians in that area = targeting civilians.

The like to use the word "collateral damage" which is just another term for "intentionally" killing innocent civilians.

 

What a joke argument .. It was the Muslim land going back centuries. This land used to be Indian land - going back centuries. So what.

The Muslims took the land from the Romans - not the Jews. If it was up to the Christian Empire- there would be no Jews in the region. It was the Muslims that allowed the Jews to be there and took them in when the "Holy Roman's were kicking them out of their lands.

 

Spare me .. this gets lamer by the post.

 

The Palestinians are not firing missiles at Israel - there is a difference. It is Israel that is firing the missiles - and they are far from innocent. Nor are the one's firing the rockets.

 

No, it was poorly written and silly.. I was being polite.

You're paraphrasing the Christian Golden Rule and it's a good one. It should be taught to all Muslims.

Islamic terrorism has been around for centuries and has no more connection to Donald Trump than it does to the Beach Boys.

 

But it was Jewish and Christian land first, thereby negating that 'Muslims settled the land' argument.

So it means that a stronger power will defeat a weaker power. Therefore Israel, being stronger, has every historical right to obliterate the Palestinians and anyone who sides with them. just as Muslims did to the Christians and Jews. That follows your logic, correct?

How could the Muslims, who were last on the scene, 'allow the Jews to be there'? Were the Muslims aligned with the Romans? According to your logic Israel, because of yjrot power, is now allowing the Palestinians to be there. Of course that could also end at any time if they continue to fire missiles at the Israeli people..

 

"Lame"
Its what the whole Oslo accords are based on, nothing is annexed, yet.

 

No where but Syria have 1000 lb bombs were dropped on civilians, the casualties of such attack doesn't fit Gaza, it could be dropped on a building with possible civilians probably family members, if Muhammad Deff death saves lives and he knows he is a target than he made a free choice, the choice to bomb such a target is not simple and very rare, it happened last OP after 50+ days of fight and no end in sight, most of the other cases were casualties that supported the target in some way, not Hamas members so civilians but i say if a little brother running with his elder to shot rockets that can kill than its a tragic but legit military target, even if the rocket is 90% to miss, we can't allow 50 of those flying undisturbed.
It's different from stacking explosives with iron nails and bomb a bus or a restaurant.

 

Right wing claims it and they have been in power so long I guess you can say Israel claims it, but its not annexed yet, just settled in some places, it still can go either way and settlements can still be uprooted in some places.

 

1) What "settled land argument" ? I made no such argument
2) The argument being put forward is "we were here first" not Stronger vs Weaker power.
3) What does "aligned" with Romans have to do with anything ? The Muslims were the stronger power.
4) Israel exists as a function of an agreement with the "Stronger Powers" - Britain and the USA/NATO. That is the difference. If Israel had been the one's to take over that region it would be a different story - but they were not. They were "allowed" to occupy "certain parts" of the region. Israel is violating that agreement.
5) What part of - "It is the Israeli's that are firing the missiles and not the Palestinians" - Israel has proven time and time again that it will continue to steal land even if the rockets stop.

 

Jesus did not invent the Golden Rule - however, it was the rock on which his teachings were built - and yes - a good one.

Muslims also have this rule in the Koran but, do not follow it - and neither do the Christians.

 

What a ridiculous comparison. Dropping bombs in an all out war is a whole lot different than Firing a missile into a building - because some politician you do not like on the other side is being interviewed by journalists - killing journalists and children who happen to be there watching.

 

Semantic apologetics on steroids. Yes Gilos - Israel is not "Officially" annexed the land it stole... just done everything else but declare the land annexed.

 

You said "What a joke argument .. It was the Muslim land going back centuries". That sounds much the same. It also means that anyone with greater power and is willing to use it, can reclaim the land. That's what Israel has done, they've reclainmmed the land, it goes back decades and is recognized by the United nations.

The argument is whatever we want it to be - from either side.

It was you who mentioned the Romans.

Then it is up to Britain, USA/Nato to take action, if they choose. But their tendency, and i think it's a good one, is to support democracies. Even other Muslim countries don;t want the Palestinians.

I think we've established that it is not stealing land if they have the power. It seems sensible that Palestinians should try to get along but their hatreds- fueled by Leftists, Jew haters, and other Muslims- runs too deep.

 

In fact Christians try their best to follow it, as we well know. Muslims may also follow it unless women, young girls, Gays or adultresses are involved.