Again ...Palestinian terror Hamas fire rocket on Israeli city 'Beersheba'.

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  1. BULGARICA

    BULGARICA Banned

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    Sheba means "He bangs р*ssy" on Bulgarian. Coincidence much?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In other words - you just move the goal posts as you see fit
     
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    Some Christians do. The religious right on the other hand hates individual liberty almost as much as the Islamist's. And quit generalizing the nut job Islamist's to all Muslims. What part of the phrase logical fallacy do you not get. Is English not your first language ?
     
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    Yeah, probably right.
    There's pedophiles in the scouts too.
    And the police.
    And Hollywood.
    Close the lot down, I say.

    nb don't judge an institution by the breach of its principles.
    If a clergyman is charged with stealing when his church proclaims that
    you should not steal, that is the fault of the person charged, not his
    church.
    Do you stop watching Hollywood productions because of pedophilia
    and sexism and homosexuality?
     
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    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    Seems every time you need to work your brain it make you giggle, cute if you're 16 y girl.

    What politician got bombed killing journalists and kids ?
     
  6. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Paedophiles are bad enough, but when they skulk underneath the robes of religion in order to conceal their disgusting perversion and to make it easier to access the most trusting and vulnerable of any society, that makes the crime a thousand times worse. I'd kill them if I could. And if you must be an apologist for paedophiles, as for whatever reason you obviously are, don't then go on to associate it with homosexuality, because there's no connection.
     
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    No, it's the difference between reality and propaganda, annexed land will be free to travel and dwelling to Israelis, something not possible today.
     
  8. Poohbear

    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not an apologist for pedophilia. I am an apologist for thoughtful,
    balanced and nuanced argument.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lacking a coherent rebuttal you resort do demonization of the messenger. My example was just one of many. You sit here pretending to know what you are talking about yet can not even come up with one example of targeting innocent civilians.

    Then when I give you examples - like the 27 Israeli pilots who refused to continue targeting innocent civilians ... you run to the playground with hands over ears crying "NO NO NO" followed by sticking head deep in the sandbox of denial - almost at the level of Holocaust denial.

    "There just Crazy" - "those 27 Israeli Pilots are out of their minds" - "They are all liars - liberal snowflakes who hate Israel" and so on.

    Jamal Mansour - High Ranking Official of the Hamas Political Wing - while giving an interview to journalists at the Palestinian Center for Studies and Media. The missiles also killed 4 journalists and 2 children. Eyal Weizman states that the purpose of the attack was to derail peace talks.
     
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    Israelis are building settlements in the Occupied territories. Who are the people living in these settlements if not Israelis - and why is the UN condemning Israel for building these settlements if this is not the case.

    Now what sure what fantasy land you are living in but ... that is the reality.
     
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    Derail peace talks?
    Ever read the Hamas Charter?
    Israel offered Gaza their own port, rail link, work visas, industrial parks,
    air port and linkage to the Israeli economy. Hamas broke such talks off
    when some Palestinians were killed in a car crash.
    What does Hamas want? This was asked during a televised debate.
    The pro-Hamas debater didn't answer the question - no wonders, it's
    the return of all Israel to Palestinian control and the expulsion or killing
    of all Jews.
     
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    I never said that Hamas has not engaged in Stupidity. The conversation was about Israel's intentional targeting of civilians .. aka "terrorism"
     
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    So, logically, why bother targeting civilians?
    1 - it's a waste of resources
    2 - it opens you to international condemnation
    3 - it's what Hamas wants.

    As an aside.
    Last Lebanese War.
    Israel said it killed between 500 and 700 Hezbollah fighters.
    Hezbollah said these were all "civilians."
    Later Hezbollah held a memorial service for the 600 "martyrs"
    who died fighting Israel. Hezbollah martyrs that is.
     
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    How about you go source that.
    I the mean time I will stick to that it was the Romans drove them out when the Jews had a big problem with the Romans being there.

    And I called the Jews being around there before the Muslims were as irrelevant. I also would like to not that the Jews did not arrive there before the Palestinians did. That too is fake news. The Palestinians have been there as far as people know that they were there. They integrated into the Arab culture when it came and became Muslim. Not that you seem to care about historic facts.
     
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    The Palestinians lived there as far as people know. They just integrated into Arab culture and became Muslim. That is well known. And it's been documented that the Jews put the civilian population of Beersheba on the bus and ethnic cleansed them to Gaza. Crime should never pay. People from Gaza are presenting the bill.
     
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    The Palestinians lived there as far as people know. They just integrated into Arab culture and became Muslim. That is well known. And it's been documented that the Jews put the civilian population of Beersheba on the bus and ethnic cleansed them to Gaza. Crime should never pay. People from Gaza are presenting the bill.
     
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    So, uh... where do Jews come from?
    I thought the bible and history and archaeology told us they came from
    Palestine?
    And I don't read about Arabs being in the area - I thought they came from
    Arabia?
    And didn't many "Palestinians" arrive from Syria, Lebanon and Jordan
    when the "returning Jews" began draining the malaria swamps and opening
    up cultivation?
     
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    I am not talking about war and I am not talking around killing the bad guys in a fire fight. I am talking about intentionally targeting civilians.

    The why is because someone they wanted to assassinate happened to be among civilians - like the example given - so they killed them all.
     
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    The bible aint the truth, buddy. It's believing. And why is it relevant where the Jews came from? The fact is that they thieved the land of Palestinians.

    I told you that the Palestinians adopted Arab culture and became Muslim. That's as much as a fact as that the Jews forced those Palestinian civilians on a bus to Gaza in order to thieve their properties to even their mosques. Crime should never pay. Hence the bill is being presented, from Gaza.
     
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    There is no Palestine in the bible.
     
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    Wow, it's a good thing they didn't treat them like the muslim do.
    They would all be dead,
    Of course, nobody would be complaining about land.
     
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    Well every man and his dog knows they pollute all walks of life so I wondered why you'd even mention that fact. It's almost trying to (for want of a better phrase) water down the perversion?
     
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    Really, kill them all?
    Any Gazans left?
    I believe IDF snipers took out some Hamas officials in recent fence protests:
    I wonder why they didn't just napalm the hundreds who gathered at the fence?
    The IDF go into villages to round up Palestinian suspects - why don't they just
    nuke that village?
    How come, given Israel's nuclear capabilities; its F16, F18 and F35's; it nascent
    space cababilities; its Merkava tank battalians and it's supremely effective military
    force that there are any Palestinians left alive? If Palestine had these capabilities
    there wouldn't be a Jew alive.
     
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    So what race are the Palestinians if they aren't Arab? Maybe they are Jews?
    Some Jewish genes in 'em for sure.
    The Jews were a theocratic state, and then a monarchy, in what is today Palestine
    right back to the Bronze Age.
    As for Bersheeba. Never heard of the incident - there are many incidents in a
    struggle. The major one concerning Arabs was that Israel called upon them in 1967
    NOT TO ABANDON THEIR VILLAGES.
    Yes, there were massacre incidents by Israelis, and massacre incidents by Arabs -
    but the general thrust was that the Arabs did not have to leave their lands.
     
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    Did they? Best news I've heard so far today.
     

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