11-year-old, upset at having to clean room, shoots grandmother before killing self/MOD WARNING

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  1. billy the kid

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    From the time Europeans arrived on American shores, the frontier—the edge territory between white man’s civilization and the untamed natural world—became a shared space of vast, clashing differences that led the U.S. government to authorize over 1,500 wars, attacks and raids on Indians, the most of any country in the world against its indigenous people. By the close of the Indian Wars in the late 19th century, fewer than 238,000 indigenous people remained, a sharp decline from the estimated 5 million to 15 million living in North America when Columbus arrived in 1492.

    The reasons for this racial genocide were multi-layered. Settlers, most of whom had been barred from inheriting property in Europe, arrived on American shores hungry for Indian land—and the abundant natural resources that came with it. Indians’ collusion with the British during the American Revolution and the War of 1812 exacerbated American hostility and suspicion toward them.



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    Well gollee...the indians fought back.....who woulda thought that this would happen when the US government ordered the slaughter of all indians to take their land...
     
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    Genocide vs Natives killed at least 75 million, some estimates as high as 112 million, in all the Americas. In what became the US, the population dropped from 12 to 18 million in 1492 to 250,000 in 1900.

    3. The most important difference is how it is taught. Germany teaches extensively about the Holocaust in public schools. No one would dare deny the Holocaust without rightfully being called a nut, ignorant, or a bigot.

    Genocide denial is extremely common in the US. Public figures like Rush Limbaugh, Michael Medved, and Andy Rooney denied this genocide. Frank Baum (author of the Wizard of Oz), Andrew Jackson, and Teddy Roosevelt all celebrated the genocide of Natives. Public schools rarely teach about genocide vs Natives. Some schools even outright lie and teach Columbus was a friend to the Indians, when he killed 1 to 3 million at least. We have a holiday celebrating Columbus, a city in Ohio, a famous university, and the District of Columbia all named after him.

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    One more time since you seem a little dense. A few thousand Indians were killed in the Indian Wars, mostly due to reprisals for Indians murdering settlers, most of which were women and children. The vast majority of the Indians died from disease. If it was genocide, the government could have easily have wiped out the remaining Indians, instead they gave them over 56 million acres of land to live on.
     
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    You made my point. 20,000 settlers were not killed at once
     
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    Read my links and get your condescending, conceited, arrogant head out of your arse...
     
  8. Xenamnes

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    In all fairness, no one has any immunity to AIDS.
     
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    Exactly what percentage of a population has to die in order for an incident to be recognized as a genocide? What are the specifics?
     
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    Billions of people can't vote nor have basic human rights because your kind hates the Second Amendment, and there is nothing funny about billions of people with no rights. One little dictator shoots his grandmother, that is far less of a threat to freedom than YOU.
     
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    When you live in a DP urban Hell Hole ordinary American children are being "educated" in an DP urban Hell Hole school. Is that an accident?

    The "GOP" has been indifferent to the suffering of the urban poor for decades why would they vote for them?

    Does anybody live in DP Maryland?
     
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    LAUGH OF THE YEAR!

    Will one of the forum's many right wingers tell this guy how many times I have DEFENDED the 2d Amendment and all attendant rights on this forum, please?

    I have done so about 100 TIMES and this guy is too blind to know it.
     
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    What was done to Native Americans was a holocaust.
     
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    Wow that is hard to believe. There were 16,000 to begin with. Some of them must have died twice. As usual you have an issue with truth.
     
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    True but it is preventable. Ignorance, culture, and superstition have prevented that from happening.
     
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    Prove it
     
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    Is that anything like Burger's support? Obama could say nothing, so you say there is no evidence he is against gun rights, but appointments do the job. Right wingers, right wingers, right wingers, every post is right wingers, and then there is the support for cop killers, you do remember that post?
     
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    The only way to truly prevent the spread of AIDS is to euthanize every last individual who is currently infected with the disease.
     
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    Seems a little extreme, but go for it.
     
  21. Mr_Truth

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    Hey DC - lookee here:



    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...an-officer-in-chicago.543070/#post-1069709062

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...an-officer-in-chicago.543070/#post-1069707729

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...video-included.537928/page-14#post-1069389282

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...eaking-spanish.533245/page-10#post-1069105086

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ans-hate-israel.533072/page-3#post-1069105046

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-trump-do-this.532781/page-17#post-1069082003

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-putin-protests.532113/page-3#post-1069032088

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...d-respect-for-the-law.530029/#post-1069005993






    Click on Search ~ 2d Amendment and Mr_Truth ~ you will find HUNDREDS of patriotic posts from me in which I defend the 2d Amendment unlike the right wingers on this forum with their ridiculous double standards.
     
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    "It is what I have said for years - the solution to this police created holocaust is simply to disarm the cops and to arm the people just as is written in the 2d Amendment."
    Certainly nothing written in the 2d Amendment supports disarming the cops or we the people, that is even more extreme than the Burger court, and him with his shotgun on the desk. The National Guard alone are not the people, the people includes everyone who is not deprived of by due process life, liberty...

    "Billions of people can't vote nor have basic human rights because your kind hates the Second Amendment, and there is nothing funny about billions of people with no rights. One little dictator shoots his grandmother, that is far less of a threat to freedom than YOU." What I said is still relevant.
     
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    Do your homework and you will learn that NYC did not have a police force until 1820 - well after Alexander Hamilton died. As you know he was the Founding Father who was principally involved in having the population approve of the Constitution. If it wasn't for him it may not have been enacted. There is nothing in the Constitution or in any of our Founder's writings which support the idea of cops killing people in cold blood with impunity. On the contrary our Founders advocated the unrestricted right of access to weaponry in order to prevent such repression.

    Now let's hear all forum right wingers stand up and affirm this TRUTH.

    Oh by the way, are you now convinced that nobody on this forum has stood up for 2d Amendment rights more than I have?

    Now let's see you man up and take back what you said before about me.
     
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    I am about to throw up my arms an go with supporting the UK model of complete disarmament given that the second amendment supporters seem bend on no repeat no restrictions no matter how deep the bodies of our next generation pile up in the school houses of the nation along with other public gathering places.

    Tired of the mass murders of innocent men women and children done by nut cases and even those if it would mean giving up my firearms so be it assuming that the choices are either between no restrictions or a complete UK type ban.

    To me the far right 2 amendment supporters are their own worst enemies.
     
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    The tragedy is that too many people own guns have not had it impressed upon them that owning a lethal weapon comes with added responsibilities.
    You are far more likely to be killed in your home if you own a gun. You are far more likely to be shot by an intruder using YOUR gun that you are to shoot an intruder. If you want to own a gun fine but you should at least go through as much training as you had to to get a drivers license. If a crime is committed using your gun you should bear some legal responsibility. You can bet people would keep their guns safely stored if they had to carry liability insurance on them and when they're used in a crime their premiums skyrocket.
    I have absolutely no problem with responsible people owning guns, I don't have any but I grew up in a house that did. It's the idiots owning guns that I worry about.
     

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