Special Report: How Iran spreads disinformation around the world

What makes you think I have ANY interest in conversing with you? Consider this response a rare gift.

You're fortunate the forum does not allow me to call you what you are.

https://www.meforum.org/articles/2005/iran-s-link-to-al-qaeda-the-9-11-commission-s-evi

 

America via Saudi Arabia funded Osama Bin laden and may other terrorist groups with billions of dollars in Afghanistan to fight the Soviets. He turned on them now they blame Iran talk about misinformation

 

You don't see Russia and Iran helping out to starve children to death by the 10.000's.

 

Misinformation? There are al qaeda living and sheltered in iran TODAY in 2018.

Denials screeching: "that's not true!" from anonymous forum members in the face of professional US and foreign intelligence agencies. But you're welcome to keep whistling in the wind.

 

I do actually, in yemen where iran and its poodle there called the houthi terrorists are helping starve the yemenite population.

THAT'S what iran does, it is a cancerous terror state and soon its fake regime will be cut out of this earth like the tumor that it is. And the people who will be applauding loudest?

The iranians themselves, especially the ones in Evin prison for being gay or having a political opinion against the diseased, corrupt regime.

I noticed that that highly knowledgable and talented poster shilling for iran was deleted altogether. Obviously we now know why they were so angry about the thread OP; it described them quite well, apparently.

 

Of course it's true.. I'm well aware Al Qaeda is in Iran....... "today" but not pre 9/11... it is therefore hypocritical to scream and yell at Iran for supporting terrorism when America supported and funded them with a reported $3billion in the lead up to 9/11... responsible for the same terror group that killed thousands in New York. This is widely known... but it's convenient for you to forget this... terrorism is only relevant when it suits you.

 

I don't know about Saudi Arabia, but the US never funded bin Laden's organization, nor the Taliban. In fact, the Taliban didn't even exist until after the Soviets were driven out of Afghanistan.

The biggest mistake the US did during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was entrusting Pakistan with distribution of American funds and weapons to Afghani resistance groups. Those groups were known as mujahedeen, the holly warriors who later became the Taliban. The Taliban were created by the Pakistani secret service.

https://www.mtholyoke.edu/~amjad20s/classweb2/page2.html
https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/pakistan-taliban-and-the-afghan-quagmire/

You're too intelligent to fall for this "Saudi Arabia is the devil" narrative. Ask yourself why is this narrative so aggressively pushed forward now, when it became clear that the current Saudi leadership acknowledges the mistakes of the past, their role in creating terrorist organizations that are now threatening their ideological parent*, and are drifting away - albeit slowly and cautiously - from extremism toward a more liberal, modern society.

Well, I'd say that Saudi Arabia's change of heart is scaring the hell out of the Iranian mullahs, since it suggests an ideological rapprochement between Saudi Arabia and the Iranian regime's nemesis, the US of A. Iranian theocratic leaders' worst nightmare is a strong, happy, democratic Arab world, free of religious extremism and hatred for the West, the two cards played by the Iranian regime to make the Muslim world rally around them.

Saudi Arabia is still a backward dictatorship with a penchant for religious extremism, but at least they admitted this is wrong and things have to change. A first baby step...

*this is, of course, a simplistic way of looking at things, since other ideologies, like the Muslim Brotherhood's, also play a big part

 

Thanks for the pat on the head

Pisa you are not only wrong but grossly misinformed....

some online sources
CIA created al-Qaeda and gave $3 BILLION to Osama bin Laden
http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=0228

Why bin Laden was radicalized

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/05/17/osama.bin.laden.al.qaeda/index.html

They funded and trained him... then when he served his purpose they tried to assassinate him

I'm saving the juiciest part for last. (from a book therefore quoting more than I usually would)

 

Yeah, and I don't see Russia or Iran showing up to help other countries devastated by any natural disaster either.

Just for once I wish the US went all evil like on you Anti Americans. Just so they know what that looks like and more importantly. How that feels.

 

Negative. The blockade has been put in place by the Saudi's who are backed up by the US. The Houthi are the one who are being starved to death.

 

Leftists will really double down on craziness after the next election. https://www.washingtontimes.com/new...is/AvaoGa8oHb84jlxAMH910A&bt_ts=1543796548050

 

Not relevant, while you do not dispute the US is helping out Saudi Arabia to starve children to death.
At best you're distracting.

 

In other words, you want a repeat of the disastrous Iraq war, only on a much larger scale.

God, please save us from these people.

 

The sanctions are hurting common Iranians badly, probably causing the death of many children, infirm, and elderly people. But the Iranian ruling class are not hurting and will not be hurt by US sanctions. And if a country like North Korea can withstand US sanctions for decades without changing its behavior, then there is absolutely no reason to think sanctions will work against Iran. The fact is, Iran is the victim here and the US is the bully. And it's been this way since at least the 1950's when the CIA helped to overthrow Iran's democratically elected government.

 

Actually, it's a distraction based mostly on imperial hypocrisy.

 

You actually believe the US government is going around the world invading and destroying entire countries because it wants to spread free markets and democracy? Seriously?

 

Your analogy would be more apt if the judge himself was the mass murderer.

That's what makes these threads so unbelievably hypocritical and obnoxious.

What right does the imperialist US have to judge other countries?

Maybe my fellow Americans should remove the plank from their own eye before they presume to remove the speck from their brother's.

 

Nothing Iran is implicated in even comes close the amount of international terrorism that US "ally" Saudi Arabia promotes.

The 9/11 attacks, where thousands of American civilians died in a few hours, has Saudi fingerprints ALL OVER IT.

The ideology of Al Qaeda and ISIS is virtually indistinguishable from the state ideology promoted by the Saudi DICTATORSHIP.

As we speak, the Saudi REGIME is pushing millions of innocent people to the brink of starvation in Yemen.

Your fixation on Iran is dripping with outrageous hypocrisy.

 

We encourage capitalist democracies. We became good allies of Japan and Germany after WW II.

We don't favor evil dictatorships like Iran, Venezuela and NK.

But if you want to believe some nutty websites about the U.S. greedily colonizing the planet, go ahead. We could have taken over the entire planet after WW II like Hitler wanted to. We didn't do it.

 

I ignore your posts as a rule, but laughed and felt like responding to this one.

Next time you mention Israel as the "bad" guy, I'll remind you of your whataboutism and how much worse syria/iran/russia are. According to you, that makes for a strong argument.

 

BTW to the anti-Westerners, stop whining about the arms blockade; if iran was not arming yet another terrorist group it would not be needed.

I do laugh at those who whine about "US interfering/undermining foreign countries" - but turn around and defend iran for doing that and far more. Hilarious.

 

Like me, the people of the mideast are fed up with iran's violent expansionist wars across the region, and no amount of propaganda from moscow or teheran will change that fact. The US finally has leadership that will be ending that soon, and its long, long overdue.

When that diseased regime falls, and the people of iran begin going through the ledgers of shills/propagandists for the regime, I look forward to many people being exposed for their actions like the scumbag Galloway was for saddam.

 

I feel so sad for them, but that's what happens to iran terrorist proxy armies - you eventually get properly dealt with.

So why don't you show us some bravery and courage, and go to the region and help get food to the civilians?

 

And this is why I generally ignore you, because your posts are lies.

Food, medicine and humanitarian goods are exempt.

https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/pages/iran.aspx

 

I wouldn't have any problem proving Saudi Arabia is putting up a blockade and the US supporting Saudi Arabia on this. While you couldn't do the same against Iran. We both know that.