Rex Tillerson on Trump: ‘Undisciplined, doesn’t like to read' and tries to do illegal things

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    What on earth are you talking about, which grand jury named him and unindicted co-conspirator and if he committed felonies he would be indicted.

    And BTW Biden said Obama was clean, was he lying?
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    You asked I answer, the SOS is also to do about trade deals you know.
     
  3. CourtJester

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    Talk about limited knowledge. Care to reconsider your statement that all administrations have increased The national debt.

    And getting a bit bored listening to you talk about your sucess as if you have some need to validate your opinions by bragging of your success. First of all you cannot prove it anymore than I can prove that my net worth puts me in the top 3% of the nation. And I wouldn't be stupid enough to claim that makes my opinion more worthy than that of someone in the bottom 3%. Validity of opinion is based on quality of thinking and ability to back up ideas and opinions with facts. Something I believe your statement about all presidents increasing the debt has proven you are incapable of doing.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In order to indict the president, the AG would have to sign off. And you and the rest of the world know the DOJ's position is that a sitting president can't be indicted. But he has been identified as a co-conspirator in committing two felonies committed in order to protect his campaign for president.

    I think this goes a tad beyond "lying" into actual criminality. Trump cheats and doesn't care what rules he has to break in order to win.
    And his supporters are perfectly fine with lyin' cheatin' crook being their president. go figger.
     
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  5. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The head of the 9th largest corporation on the planet is also a diplomat and has to deal with foreign governments, laws and assets in the normal course of his day.
     
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    Exactly.

    That sort of "internet boasting" that you refer to (that can't be proven on an anonymous message board) is beyond ludicrous.

    That said, I am a Multi-Trillionaire who posesses the Highest IQ in recorded history.

    Oh, now back to Imbecillius Rex:

    He was totally unqualified to be SOS (and was in way over his head).

    So glad to hear that he finally came to his senses.:flagus:
     
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  7. LogNDog

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    I never said anyone in the Trump administration was clean. I was pointing out the fallacy of the statement about how clean the Obama administration was. I already answered the bolded. Maybe you should revisit my prior post and address that rather than repeat what you already said. You will probably post back with a non answer that doesn't have anything to do with my previous post. Repeating something doesn't make it accurate.
     
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  8. fullmetaljack

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    Great. You admit that Dirty Donnie is Dirty, dishonest, and he surrounds himself with dishonest people.

    Baby steps, but progress.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And I never said the Obama adminstration was clean. AS to the level of cleanliness, that can be judged since actual criminality is the first measure, don'cha think?
     
  10. Natty Bumpo

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    "Day Care" Kelly bails.

    Of Lyin' Don's "best people" who linger, how many others don't have "the mental capacity needed!", are "dumb as a rock!", and "lazy as hell!"?

    The revolving door of Trump's Cabinet


    Who's out next?

    By POLITICO STAFF | 11/16/18 04:00 PM EDT | UPDATED 12/07/18

    At least half a dozen Cabinet officials have either departed or are considered on the ropes following the midterm elections. For a president who has already shed or shuffled nine Cabinet officials, that would make for the highest turnover rate in recent history.

    https://www.politico.com/interactives/2018/interactive_trump-cabinet-departures/

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  11. spiritgide

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    But of course, your goal is not to understand, not to discuss, not to learn or teach- it is to win what you think are some kind of points by argument. Nothing points, with no value except to feed your ego. And while everybody has an opinion and a right to them- it is likely that the opinions of people who are successful in a field are worth substantially more credit than those who are just arm-chair critics. All my life, when I've had the chance to meet someone who has excelled, I have asked them politely- how they were able to do accomplish it. Most of them, asked properly- will generously share their secrets. Much of my own success has come from listening to what those people shared. They are glad to share when they find someone who might actually use and benefit from the knowledge. Unfortunately, most people come with a built-in shoulder chip and insult successful people before asking for a hot tip to get rich quick. The successful see talking to such people as a waste of valuable time, and they are right. Such people squeak a great deal, blame and criticize others, but usually accomplish little- except to feed off others along the way. What you think you know... in my view, totals up to zero.

    You take reference to general trend and insist that it's not true because there are exceptions. The debt when Obama took office the national debt was 10.6 trillion dollars. That is the level reached since the beginning of the nation- ALL prior administrations combined in over 200 years. When Obama left office, the total was a little over 20 trillion- virtually double; close to adding as much debt than all other presidents before him combined. Now that is on federal record and available to anyone.

    Debt has been higher and then reduced when excess needs such as the world wars I & II took place. There are variables, however the overall trend has been not only upward, but increasing a faster rate then ever. Until October of 1981, the debt had always been less than 1 trillion. Now it's 21 trillion. Perhaps you see a trend? I doubt it.
     
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  12. LogNDog

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    Thanks for putting words in my mouth that I didn't say. That's a dishonest tactic. Not surprised that you would talk about the dishonesty of another person or group while being dishonest.
     
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  13. LogNDog

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    Asked and answered already. I think what I said posted three posts ago. Slow learner?
     
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  14. fullmetaljack

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    But this is SOP fo the trumpettes on this site. You mean you object to Dirty Donnie putting words into the mouths of his opponents ? Tell you what. I won’t do it if you won’t do it. Deal ?
     
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    So you admit that your statement that every President has increased the national debt was nonsense. Thanks for a tiny bit of intellectual honesty. One small step for a man, one giant step for mankind.
     
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    You said he was named an unindicted co-conspirator.........by WHOM and no the AG would not have to sign off on it. The grand jury can issue the indictment it just cannot be served and take to trial. So where is this statement by the grand jury, who identified him as a co-conspirator and for what?
     
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    You're kidding. Right?
     
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    And of course- you don't see the trend. What a man of vision..... apparently only in the rear view mirror in your bathroom.
     
  19. CourtJester

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    Which trend don't I see? But it is hilarious that when you get caught in an obvious falsehood you seem to have to swage your ego with personal attacks instead of actually being a man and admitting you were wrong. But lets move on from your obviously pathetically fragile ego.
     
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    Its pretty clear in the SDNY sentencing memo that cohen communicated with and acted at the direction of the individual who was ultimately successful in campaign for president. Now I realize that it might take some time to ponder who this could possibly refer to, I mean its a poser, ain't it?

    breaking campaign finance laws by entering into a successful conspiracy (until exposed after the fact) to pay hush money to protect the campaign from lurid tabloid tales of his sexual misconduct. The money spent breaks the law. Cohen pleaded guilty cause they had him cold. Lyin' crooked Donnie was his lord a master for 10 years.

    In order for "charges" to be laid (indictment) against the president, the AG would have to sign off on it. Its the only thing that currently protects him.

    But what's character. Lyin' Crooked donnie cheated to win and his acolytes are fine with it. pathetic.
     
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    Your posts just continue to deteriorate. It's pretty simple. Even a third grader could understand what I said. Are you smarter than a third grader? I have no idea what you won't do if I don't do it. Your post is clear as a turd. I didn't put words in your mouth. It seems that you are trying to emulate your vision of Trump if you think he puts words in other people's mouths. You think he does it so you do it? How does that work out for you in real life?
     
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    Typical trumpette: can’t argue the facts, so resorts to insults.

    As for “dishonest tactic” , that’s really funny coming from someone who supports a dishonest administration.
     
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    Can't you have an honest and intelligent discussion or is it your goal to just post babbling nonsense?
     
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    Sure can. Let’s start right here. What would you like to discuss ?
     
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    What? Trump was named directing people to do illegal things?? When? Where?
     

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