Are Trump supporters Bush supporters?

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have long noticed you do not debate.
     
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    I check facts against my memory every day. You remember Arthur Harris?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I voted for Bush 41 and believe me his pledge was a good reason to vote for him. He lied to me and the rest of his supporters. Most of what he said he did keep his word. I voted again for Bush yet the liar Bill Clinton beat him, a man you call honorable.

    The fact is the entire nation profits from the tax cuts. And of course the poor pay no income taxes so got none of the cuts.; My son told me he gained a lot from Trump and he is not poor, but not all that wealthy either. He told me all he has left on hand is about $50,000 and that is earmarked for paying Taxes to the Feds.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There has in history been just one Arthur Harris?

    You spent years upon years as a loyal Republican. Apparently you think you spent a lifetime of being wrong.
     
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    Trump doesn't lie and mislead all the time?
     
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    Good dodge.. You don't know anything about Iraq, do you?
     
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    That is hilarious. It would have been on the front page news of every paper and Bush and Cheney would be declared heroes. Three words buddy


    Iraq

    Survey


    Group
     
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    Come on dude. This is laughable. There was a bipartisan committee that says we didn't
     
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    Of course they didn't. Bush and the GOP would have been screaming about it from every rooftop
     
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    Romney and McCain were both beards for the DNC.
     
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    delete, misread post
     
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    Your interpretation of events is also questionable. At the time it was hardly a Democratic myth. Cheney twisted the CIA advice as an excuse to attack Iraq. Cheney had significant government experience and was able to easily influence the naive Bush. And Iraq did have weapons of mass destruction at one time and used them against the Kurds
    What Donald Rumsfeld Knew We Didn't Know About Iraq - Politico

    https://www.politico.com/.../01/iraq-war-wmds-donald-rumsfeld-new-report-213530
     
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    Trump's wealth increased by 7 billion dollars in his first year if we believe his statement to the UN as he used his office for financial gain.
    His statement to give his salary to charity was just another ploy to ingratiate his base. The Democrats are the good guys in this administration and are all that stand in his way of creating havoc within our democracy.
     
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    Vague claims? Just listen to the guy.
     
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    When Saddam gassed the Kurds at Halabja in 1988 the US didn't make a stink.. just like nobody objected when Arthur Harris of the RAF gassed Kurds and Arabs in 1920.
     
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    The nation is not profiting from the tax reduction, because the wealthy are not putting it into the economy. Are you saying that I called Clinton honorable? False. This is not about Clinton. Bush 1 was not a liar and we lost a capable president because he couldn't produce.
    Trump's life is based on lies and conning people into believing those lies.
     
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    The guys who paid Trump for their MAGA hats (which pay Jared Kushner's legal bills), also have tri corner hats in their closets, and thought that Sarah Palin was a serious candidate.

    Look at the polling numbers.

    Bush spent a long time in the mid forties in poll numbers before Katrina and the point at which the public did realize that the Iraq war was the quagmire that they feared. Then it dropped into "dead ender" territory and fell to the mid twenties.

    The Tea Pary soared into the forties for a while. But when the Washinton lobbying firms and public relations firms that were the real tea pary money pulled their cash, the tea party faded, and the poll numbers fell into the twenties.

    I have never had much doubt taht Trump will leave office with poll numbers that low. The trend is in that direction. He may go back up for a while, but it won't last.

    Remember taht Trump has NEVER ONCE got 50% in a (real) poll or any election in which there was a contest. Not once.
     
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    BS, Your hero's entire campaign has racism and white resentment at it's very core.

    Voter surpression laws have been introduced across Red state America, in the wake of the conservative Supreme Court's opening of the door to it.

    Lincoln was the very honorable face (they thought they were picking a front man). of a new political party that was steeped in Guilded Age corruption.
     
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    LOL, of course the only argument the left has is racism and applies it to everything. Historic low minority unemployment got you down?

    Resentment of whites is at the core of the new democratic party which, of course, is racism.
     
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    George W Bush was one of the worst President's this country ever had.

    He charged into a disasterous, unnecessary war in the wrong country and bungled it completely (it was doomed from the start).

    In so doing, he cleaved a scism in the traditional Western alliance, a fissue that Trump is driving knife into (to the delight of his Russian "friends").

    He doubled the national debt in eight years. (reagan had tripled it).

    He did get Medicare Part D passed. It was essentially the same program that Nancy Pelosi and Tom Daschele proposed before Bush was President. Of course, the Democrats weren't going to give big pharma the big wet kiss that the GOP Congress and Bush did.
     
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    Hard facts, but facts months less.
     
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    The sad thing is that George W Bush looks like someone you'd add to Mount Rushmore compared to Trump. whose Presidential Library will probably be in unleasable space on Trump Tower (and Trump will brag that more people go to it than any other Presidential Library (which will probably be true). But then, no other Presidential library is smack dab in the middle of a tourist trap, either!
     
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    The United Nations mission?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack

    Your other link is dead. Plenty of WMDs recovered in Iraq, not a production programme, the remnants of Saddam's 90s stockpile. It's okay for you to admit it, even okay for you to still say the war was wrong but the whole 'Bush lied people died' nonsense is well and truly over.
     
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