AOC is socialist. Is that bad?

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Communism can't exist on a large scale. Period.
     
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    Republicans have tied to make deficits illegal 30 times and Democrats killed every effort. What does that teach you?

    Trump just introduced $4.7 budget with $1 trillion deficit and Democrats are denouncing even that as cruel. What does that teach the silly gifted liberal?
     
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    communism cant exist on any scale. Pilgrims tried it and had to switch to capitalism to finally end starvation. Do you understand?
     
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    liberalism is stepping stone to socialism and socialism a stepping stone to communism.

    Lenin: The goal of socialism is communism.

    Norman Thomas: ( socialist presidential candidate)
    The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.
     
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    so you're a capitalist since socialism just starved 120 million and since Cuba and Venezuela are doing it again right under your nose?
     
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    your totally confused!! fascism is when govt and business are combined while capitalism is when they are separate.

    liberalism communism socialism and fascism are when govt and business are combined. 1+1=2

    this is why our liberals liked fascism:


    -Guy Tugwell: (FDR Brain Trust) said of fascism: "It's the cleanest, neatest piece...of social machinery I've ever seen.
     
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    Nordic or Europeans live at about 50% of our per capita GDP. France is a liberal's wet dream yet they have income of Arkansas about our poorest state, and still they are literally rioting in the streets every weekend because the poor cant make ends meet despite taxes almost double ours.

    Now does the liberal understand?
     
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    not really welfare was often focused on blacks and it universally crippled many of them over generations. Are you prepared to take responsibility for this, for the school to prison liberal pipeline?
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Leaning towards socialism doesn't mean they have to be a stepping stone to communism; a mixture of capitalism and socialism would be the perfect match in this country.
     
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    Divorce is mostly a choice which is why there was so little of it when America was great and why there is so much of it
    now that America is in liberal hands. Republicans choose love and family while Democrats oppose out of pure ignorance.
     
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    Europe and USA have mixture. Europe has more and they live at 50% of our GDP. Ussr and Red China had more and 120 million slowly starved to death. The more you mix in socialism the more poverty and starvation. Even Krugman says european nations have Eurosclerosis. Do you understand? Look at France 20 weeks of rioting despite all the socialism our insane liberals ever dreamed of.
     
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    socialism requires social morals for free. everybody knows, capitalism is worse.
     
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    Ew, why would we want to mix socialism into capitalism?
     
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    I replied to all your claims. And I was providing a lot of real-life data to support my claims. On the other hand, your language is very vague, generalizing and fuzzy, without any real-life examples (except Venezuela, and there your claim was false)

    You mean in the USA? Because I'm from Romania and I live in Spain.
    If that's the case then that's because the government is supporting leeching. Maybe you read again what I wrote in my previous message because I was addressing it already.

    That's because they make way too much money - by theft. By selling overpriced goods and services to the consumers and to the taxpayers (the government also buys a lot of stuff) and by paying low wages to the workers. Otherwise they would make less incomes and the workers would have bigger incomes. And then the workers would be able to pay bigger taxes. And then the same amount of money (that 70%) would be collected by the government.
    This is a very good example of the criminal mindset in the Western culture: when the poor people pay for the rich, they claim that it's necessary "in order to fix the economy" (bailouts, billions in gifts for the GM). But when the rich thieves pay taxes, they scream like nuts "OMG socialism!" or "OMG communism!" or "OMG nationalization!" or "OMG we pay too much tax!"
    There is already very good proof for that: Henry Ford was lowering his incomes in order to increase the wages of the workers and to reduce the working hours of the workers - Check Wikipedia for "Fordism".
    Samuel Insull created a monopoly of electricity supply in order to protect the consumers and to provide them good quality electricity and a low and affordable price. So he lowered his own income in order to sell cheaper electricity.
    So the government collected pretty much the same amount in taxes, by taxing the workers instead of taxing Henry Ford and Samuel Insull.
    The amount of money to be taxed is the same. The govt. can collect it from the workers - or from the thieves who are drinking the blood of the workers.
    How do you want the workers who get 133 Euros per month to pay taxes? Don't you think that Tony Blair - who is actually drinking their blood - should pay that tax instead?

    According to your logic, when 20% of the population was starved to death in Ireland (1850), those victims were guilty for not paying taxes and the rich people who starved them to death should have complained for paying too much of the total tax receipts.
    According to your logic, the people who are starved or even starved to death are guilty for not being able to pay taxes and the rich people who are killing them should scream in horror "OMG we pay too much tax!!"
    The the "solution" in the Irish Famine was applied again in 1930 and in 2008, but at a lower intensity. Again, the government took the money from the poor and they gave it to the rich. They didn't starve the people to death anymore yet their "solution" was the same: to take the money from the poor and to give it to the rich.

    All these facts prove beyond any doubt that the Western culture is actually a terrorist mindset. And there are plenty of other facts to prove that. The Western citizens are educated to believe that they have the right to hurt their brothers and to even exterminate large amounts of people, based on all kind of ideologies.

    Of course a criminal doesn't agree to stop hurting their brothers. Of course a blood drinker will not agree to stop drinking the blood of their brothers. Simply because that's how a criminal mind works.
    Of course, a murderous assassin like Barack Obama would never agree to tax the rich in order to pay the debts of the country or in order to provide cheap housing to the workers. He is the ultimate satanist, a true servant of the super-rich and he (and others like him, like for example the Clintons) will always take the money from the poor and give it to the rich.
    Of course a miserable blood drinker like Tony Blair will not agree to pay taxes because he wants to keep all the money he is stealing from the poor workers that he keeps in the deepest misery.

    You can throw as many insults as you want. You can promote any amount of false claims invented to support the criminal and murderous Western mindset and the terrorist Western culture.
    It's not only me claiming that USA is the biggest terrorist in the world. Also a person regarded as one of the most intelligent people in the world claims that - and he provided already a lot of evidence - his name is Noam Chomsky.

    In fact, the only solution for the people like me to have a decent life is to get together and to form independent communities and to stay as far away as possible from the "socialists" like Barack Obama and from "capitalists" like George Bush - and for the people who vote for them.
    Because they will always invent all kind of reasons to exterminate their brothers or to keep their brothers into deep poverty and into a horrible life and they will always scream like nuts that their victims are guilty for all kind of things.
    For example the Amish communities have a high degree of economic independence and in the Great Depression they were able to manage much better than the majority - they were not affected that hard by the economic crisis.
    Therefore the solution for the decent people is to get away from the system you are promoting and to leave the people who have a high appetite for violence, crime and terrorism to live the way they want.
     
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    well, a liberal always likes inefficiency and a little poverty. Socialism is guaranteed to deliver!
     
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    Yep, like socialist money.
     
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    Again, this insult is showing how deeply and profoundly the Western mindset is a murderous and terrorist mindset.
    To give some real life examples: me and my parents always worked decently. And we always had a miserable life. And that's thanks to the super-rich that you are protecting so violently. We can't afford to buy an apartment because the super-rich and their puppet politicians are always increasing the speculation in the real estate sector. It is very hard for us to find a job because the politicians are doing their best to outsource the jobs in China/Bangladesh/Indonesia etc. Our wages are very low because the super-rich are doing their best to increase the poverty. And actually the majority of the people in this world are in the same situation. And a growing number of people in the West are living like that.
    And that's because the super-rich and their puppets are nothing else then murderous assassins and deadly criminals.
    If you are a decent person then this planet is simply not the place to where to live.
    Because those murderers will always increase the poverty of the people and they will always blame their victims.

    You are deliberately using not only infuriated replies but also an ambiguous language that spreads confusion. When you talk about the poor you refuse to make the distinction between the poor workers and the leeches who are used to keep the workers into poverty. So you are deliberately trying to spread confusion. You put them all in the same bag so you can throw accusations against the exploited workers while suggesting that you are infuriated by leeching.
    So you are doing a great deal of service for the super-rich. Those super-rich are using the leeches in order to keep the workers in poverty. And then they accuse the leeches but they also accuse the poor workers, using the "poverty" like an umbrella to cover them both.
    And that's because the super-rich are nothing else than true satanists, miserable blood drinkers, criminals, murderers and mass terrorists, so this kind of discourse is actually nothing unexpected from them and from their supporters.
     
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    Maybe someday you will make sense using English. Until then your posts are just humorous for the intelligent.
     
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    So you are unsuccessful and blame it on others.
     
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    It's amazing how far bots have come lately. They almost sound like a real person.
     
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    If you understood what you were talking about, no explanation would be necessary. But as you don't none is possible. Babble is not logic.

    Like it or not- when you have a job, you ARE a capitalist; selling your product to the highest bidder, and certainly not caring if they get their money's worth. The employer IS your customer- but of course, from your point of view- he is victimizing and exploiting you. Then when you are the customer of some business, the whole perception of the relationship changes. As the customer, you are entitled to respect, to appreciation, to satisfaction- and of course, you money's worth or more. If you tried treating an employer as a customer, everything you think you know would invert, and your world as you see it would change.

    It's very simple. So long as what you want has to be paid for by someone else who doesn't want it, and you try to force that on them. The idea is parasitic.
    Feeling victimized is an excuse, justification for bad behavior as an escape from accountability and responsibility.
    Good ideas are popular because they are good enough people will pay to be part of them, not something just demanded where somebody else if forced to pay their way.
    As that is the essence and core of socialism- it is fatally flawed, and there is not a damn thing that can change it. You can deny it, but the only person you fool is yourself and those who want to believe the same fairy tales.
     
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    Ah, the self serving hate runs deep with this one.....
    The envy of success, the greed welling up because somebody else has done better and has more.... Yes, it must be evil, because it couldn't be you.....
     
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    The preponderance of blacks over whites in prison isn't due to the welfare system, or to having more blacks engaged in criminal behaviors. It's due to racial prejudice within the ranks of our law enforcement & judicial systems.
     
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    Republicans really showed that love of family when they separated children & infants from their parents along our southern border within the past two years, while failing to record the information necessary for reuniting them later. If you feel Republicans have love of family & family values, then I severely question the values you have within yourself that you feel Republicans harmonize with.
     
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    Aren't statists the worst. Initiating violence against one's neighbors. Not cool. Not cool at all.
     

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