Trump Should Be Pacifying Crackpots, Not Inciting Them

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  1. Papastox

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    Trump is not responsible for every crackpot in the world, but as for the Democrat crackpots, THEY are responsible for the crazy things they do. Is Obama responsible for all of the cop killings due to his anti police diatribes?
     
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    What I said was immigration that maintains the racial balnce we have now

    Who can argue against that?
     
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    What are you babbling about???
     
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    This is such a wonderful example of of unknowledge prejudice. You conclude that these immigrants are not productive and don’t know how to care for themselves and cannot contribute to America. Fleeing from violence is not botching a job at home. But how do you describe them is so telling about how you feel about people who are not white like you.
    They said the same thing about my immigrant grandparents and probably most peoples. The immigrants I know work their asses off so they can have a better life for their children just the way my ancestors did.
     
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    Renee Well-Known Member

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    Be afraid be afraid be afraid they’re coming to get your gun ..quick , hide! Whoever said they want to take away your guns? Gun control does not mean taking away guns but I keep forgetting that’s how extremists think
     
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    So you think these immigrants should be admitted on color... OK got itYou’re just afraid that whites are going to have smaller numbers and what could be worse. Maybe we can practice apartheid
     
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    Yes white nationalist hate naturalized minorities too...but only certain ones . think they really hate brits or Danes? As I said I just think you’re being disingenuous will just have to leave it at that
     
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    Or not ... now you're stereotyping Danes & Brits. No minority presence there? No UK minorities immigrate, and supremecists show those who do preference. Whether you concede the points I've raised or not, you've lost them. And trying to make your identity politics "about me" isn't working.
     
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    You know damn well when Trump was referring to Swedes he was referring to white people.. You can go defend white nationalists and I will defend immigrants trying to get a better life. Obviously we just have different values
     
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    Yeah let's blame Trump for the existence of crackpots. Part of what makes them crackpots is the fact they are largely self activating.
     
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    You've been defending Swede's, Danes, and Brits? How did I miss that?
     
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    Ignorance is not having experience. I've worked in central American countries on about 10 different contract projects. I hired them, managed them, watched how they work, how they manage their llives what values they kept, what they settle for. You need to understand that while many immigrants do wish to come here because of the opportunity to do more for themselves, there are far more that are opportunistic, looking to take advantage of people who tell themselves that everybody is really trying and nobody seeks to exploit. I assure you, while there are some very good people there- there are a great many exploiters looking for a better life that takes less effort. Trying to get people to actually perform there is much harder than it is here, even when the compensation is higher than anything else they could find. Unmotivated and unreliable is the norm. Situation ethics are the norm. Manana is the norm. Siesta is the norm.

    This is not to say anything against the basic idea of immigration, but it is to say that just as you control your front door and have to use judgement- we must control our borders and use judgement. "Fleeing from violence" is often the violent people looking for less competition. Every thug wants to be the top thug in his territory, and the competition drives many to look for someplace new- with gullible people.

    In Honduras, where I have worked many times- the gangs and gangsters probably constitute more than half the population today in the age brackets of 12-40. Law enforcement is strongly controlled by gangsters. There is fierce competition for turf and people to victimize. Honduras is the murder capitol of the world right now- it has become the culture, and that does not happen when the people will not tolerate it. That is what I mean by botching the job- tolerating a deteriorating social condition. Young people there, those under 30 for sure- have grown up in a culture of violence, learned it as the tools of everyday living. A large percentage of them do not know any other way.

    All immigrants are not like your grandparents, or my great-grandparents who came here from Germany in the 1870's to homestead a farm. There is a difference between using the land and using the people and system, and the latter is what present day Hondurans know how to do.
     
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    Somebody did something ,,, but not as bad as the attack Democrats caused with their rhetoric in Sri Lanka.
     
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    Democrats and Sri Lanka.

    You make the point beautifully.

    Trump bum kissers will evoke crackpot nonsense to avoid honestly confronting the question of whether Trump should be inciting or pacifying his fanatical followers such as Robert Chain, Cesar Sayoc, and John Kless.

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    "Oh, yeah!
    Well, what about them LIBRALS
    makin' a dang Trump blimp, huh?"
     
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    Makes as much sense as the thread you started. We all know that Islamic Terrorists and Democrats share one thing in common: The end justifies any means. It's in your handbook, Rules for Radicals, and also in the Quran. Clearly, Democrats share culpability in any genocide perpetrated by your brothers in murder, Islamic Terrorists. Trump, on the other hand, can't be responsible for every crackhead Democrats allow to walk the streets.
     
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    I guess we can use your logic, rightwingers don’t support Islamic terrorists only white Christians who shoot up schools because guns are more important to them
     
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    The Democrat Party is the home of white supremacy and the party of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, the KKK Klux Klan, lynchings, separate but equal, poll taxes, literacy tests, church burnings, black infanticide, opposition to civil rights laws for the black Americans, native Americans and minorities .

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    Well that idiot that shot at Steve s Scalise was used to decry everyone from Obama to AOC
     
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    Who?

    And what did we do again?
     
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    Yeah

    SUCH an inconvenience!

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    Dear Vladimir Putin,

    If you're listening, please release Crooked Hillary's emails and then spy on all the democrat party candidates for president and listen to their phone calls, emails and text messages. Send to donaldjtrump45@whitehouse.gov

    Also, do a bunch of Facebook ads and have all you bots on Twitter fool stupid Americans to vote for republicans.

    Thank you,
    AMERICA
     
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    It means severe restrictions and confiscation if possible

    The crazy democrat in california is willing to shoot gun owner who dont comply
     
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    I think we should have a merit based immigration policy instead of chain immigration

    The shoeless mexican or somali family members should not be allowed to immigrate
     
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    Sorry but when was Putin Americas bestie???
     
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    Is violence, hatred, bigotry and xenophobia out there? Yes, but what Trump does is brand it with legitimacy and acceptability. Trump's base is merely a manifestation of what lies beneath the majority of people that practice restraint, good will toward mankind, polite manners, and human decency. Trump represents an acknowledgement that it is perfectly okay to hold feelings of fear and anger directed against those that don't meet his standards of ethnic and racial superiority - against the "losers" of the world. He is the spokesman and champion of xenophobic crackpots, and a base of angry, morally impoverished, ignorant people. Does he incite them, no because they are alway there, lurking in the cesspool of human existence. Trump simply brings them out into the open. What we see are those that have already embraced his view of morality and human decency. Trump's legacy is simply too horrible to contemplate.
     
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