NY Times: Say, This Steele Dossier Appears To Be False (And Maybe Was A Russian Disinformation Effor

"So?"

I'm trying to correct another poster's fake news, but honestly there is just so much of it...

 

Are you really using Christopher Steele as a credible source??

 

What's funnier is your ability to judge the quantum sized character of your dear leader.

 

that's the point of the exercise by certain vested interests, since trump generates so much of it.

Mueller has proven that most of those "fake news" accusations by trump were actually true. Seems its almost as effective a tell as "believe me folks".

 

No, only that those particular elements contained within his memos turned out to be true. And yes I do believe him to be a credible professional source, but that is another issue entirely, since at least some of his intell was true and that is the point.

 

You just shot the DNC in both feet. Too funny.

 

Nope. Of course you can't discern the minute difference between contracting with american firm to obtain opposition information and encouraging and meeting with representatives of an adversarial government to obtain stolen information.

You manage to read the meuller report? Can you dare to have your delusions shattered by the truth?

 

The Steele dossier is completely discredited. It is rubbish. It was written by a Brit who used Russian sources and was paid for by the DNC who did nothing to verify the content which not even the CNN/MSNBC cesspool would print.

The Mueller Report confirms that the Steele dossier is rubbish.

 

When the Mueller investigation was first announced I expected the first thing he'd do was verify the dossier (he didn't). There is scarce reference to the dossier in Mueller's report, he doesn't say he couldn't verify it, so maybe it just still hasn't been verified. This does seem strange to me given the role this dossier played in supporting the notion Russia had compromised Trump, and how it was used to support those FISA warrants against Page.

 

What I want to know, and I haven't read the rest of this thread yet, is: Is this an explaination, or is it a CYA (cover your ass) attempt? The article seems to be saying that Steele, the FBI, the CIA, the entire "Deep State" apparatus, the entire Obama administration, the complete Clinton apparatus, the whole of US allied world intelligence, and all of investigative journalism were suckered by RUSSIA!.

Maybe that's true and maybe not. I lean towards: not. I lean towards: CYA.

 

The Obama administration did nothing about it because they were using the Steele dossier as the reason for spying on the Trump campaign and Presidency.

 

OK. But what is the point of the article? Were they all really suckers, or are they trying to come up with an excuse for criminal behavior?

Is there another option? I can't think of one.

 

The point is that which was true was put there to get you to swallow the Russian disinformation that was also put there. Which the Democrats and deep state did because it flattered their confirmation bias and could be used to justify spying on the Trump campaign.

 

Both, They really wanted to believe it so they did and could justify their criminal behavior.

 

IMO they didn’t need an excuse. They manufactured a justification for the FISA warrants and then were not candid (McCabe was fired for this sanitized description of lying) to the FISA judge. This is banana republic SOP.

 

IMO they knew it was garbage. They made no attempt to investigate its veracity which of course would have resulted in its discreditation but ignored that obligation and went directly to the FISA court.

 

Good point.

Still, does anybody really even care about the Dossier anymore?

Mueller's report is finished, and worrying about the Dossier is like crying over spilt milk.

The Dossier?

 

Does anybody care about the criminal activity of the Obama DOJ and their carry over personnel into the Trump Presidency ?? Does anybody care about the banana republic degradation of the US Justice Department ??

Lives have been ruined because of this.

 

No, the Steele dossier has not been completely discredited despite the massive effort by trumpettes to do so.

And the Mueller Report actually CONFIRMS much of the content of the dossier. Of course you wouldn't know that since its obvious you haven't read either. So many trumpettes just slap trumpian denial/discredit bumperstickers on their foreheads and with the power of dunning kruger flowing thru their mental pathways, are adamant in their ignorance.

 

Now that is a brilliant mental contortion. Truly side show star material.

Mueller detailed exactly what the Russians did and who did it. I guess you didn't read the report, which I totally understand as a defensive tactic. Afterall, in true trumpian fashion the facts are whatever makes trump look good and dems look like master criminals.

But I get how you think the russian active measures attack on the integrity of the election is no biggie even if america got it up the arse from Putin. I guess trumpettes like the feel of it, because trump et.al have done pretty much Sweet F All to prevent continuing interference.

Its clear that trump's overriding concern is protecting the legitimacy of his electoral win. After years of being the leader of the birther delegitimization campaign against obama, he is sensitive to the fact he won (knowingly or not) with the help of a foreign adversarial government. Its more important than national security in his mind and his actions and words have proven that to be the pathetic fact.

 

That’s ridiculous. The dossier is garbage. What do you claim the Mueller investigation confirms ???

I predict crickets.

 

You were lied to for 2+ years by every democrat and your favorite media but clearly aren't bothered by that. You really shouldn't lecture people, you only make a bigger fool of yourself.

 

I agree that we all have been lied to for 2+ years considering the 10,000+ documented lies, misrepresentations and pure fantasies your dear leader has uttered. All those "fake news, folks" responses to what turns out to be accurate reporting. Meanwhile you were happily sucking up the gospel according to #Deranged Donald.

“Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves.” ― George Gordon Byron

 

See post 15. Those particular excerpts from the dossier have been shown to be true.. It seems you haven't read either document so I understand how you can claim definitive knowledge with such ignorance of the evidence.

 

I wish I could take credit for it, but the idea of the Steele report being Russian disinformation is from the NYT.

Trump, as it turns out, is very concerned about Cybersecurity in general.