Let's clear a few things up about the dossier.

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Question
    Let's say trump did commit crimes and let's also say that the warrant to conduct the investimation in the first place was also illegal
    Does one invalidate the other legally?
    As in is it like regular court when the cops get evidence the wring way, they dismiss it?
    Btw this isn't a trick question..I legit don't know
     
  2. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not when those people threaten the democratic institutions millions have died to protect. Not when those people threaten the planet we inhabit by their refusal to accept science. Willful ignorance is not to be respected......it is to be scorned and ridiculed.
     
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  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Speculation of this nature is pointless. We already know the FISA warrants were legally obtained, approved on multiple occasions by the judges on the FISA court.
    We also know, in Mueller's opinion, there were a number of instances of obstructive conduct committed by Don.

    Anything else?
     
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    You must be from a third world country where governments can use “raw intel” to start spying operations on political opponents. Truth is it really wasn’t intell at all, because it turned out to be glaringly false.
     
  5. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No..I'll wait to see what they find out about the warrants
     
  6. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You must exist inside the right wing media bubble where false accusations that the dossier was the primary source of evidence used to obtain the FISA warrants still reverberate. You really shouldn't speak about the truth since you have no familiarity with it.
     
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    It’s going to be glorious when your deep state rat heroes get frog marched by barr, into a courtroom. Then you’ll realize all the propaganda you spammed will be for nothing.
     
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  8. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nothing is more amusing than reading your fever swamp dreams.

    Trump would have been charged with obstruction were he not president, hundreds of former federal prosecutors assert

    “Each of us believes that the conduct of President Trump described in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report would, in the case of any other person not covered by the Office of Legal Counsel policy against indicting a sitting President, result in multiple felony charges for obstruction of justice,” the former federal prosecutors wrote.

    “We emphasize that these are not matters of close professional judgment,” they added. “Of course, there are potential defenses or arguments that could be raised in response to an indictment of the nature we describe here. . . . But, to look at these facts and say that a prosecutor could not probably sustain a conviction for obstruction of justice — the standard set out in Principles of Federal Prosecution — runs counter to logic and our experience.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...fc2ee80027a_story.html?utm_term=.777478366076
     
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    Dear Leader Benedict Donald and his followers hate exposure of the connections between the far rw extremists and our enemies.

    It is threads like this that create more democrats and never-trumpers....thank you
     
  10. JakeStarkey

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    "We already know the FISA warrants were legally obtained, approved on multiple occasions by the judges on the FISA court. " So we know Barr is barking down an empty rabbit hole. Let him waste time on this fruitless search, while the FBI and state investigations are ongoing.
     
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  11. Dayton3

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    Oh please you're not one of those climate change fanatics are you? I thought you were smarter than that.

    And given that the U.S. has not lost "millions" in all of its wars combined, I'm not sure where you get the "democratic institutions millions have died to protect".
     
  12. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is something to consider that is very concerning.

    Billy the Bagman is now in control of those investigations being conducted by federal prosecutors around the country.
     
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    Those federal prosecutors country wide have passed off more than 90% of the material gathered to the staties.
     
  14. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm a person, like the majority of people around the world, who believe in science and therefore believe the irrefutable scientific evidence of man made climate change. Those who don't are willfully ignorant of the facts.
     
  15. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fourteen Mueller Spinoff Cases Are Now In Bill Barr’s Hands

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/mueller-cases-under-barr-control

    Special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation may be over, but the fourteen separate investigations that he spun off to U.S Attorney’s Offices around the country now have a new caretaker: Attorney General Bill Barr.

    Given Barr’s demonstrated willingness to protect the Trump White House from investigations the President finds “unfair,” the attorney general is facing questions and calls for recusal — amid demands for his resignation — from these related probes.

    Former federal prosecutors told TPM that it’s unclear how much influence Barr will be able to exert over sprawling investigations that are already in progress. It’s true that U.S. attorneys are directly beholden to Barr and the President in a way that Mueller was not, and lack institutional safeguards that keep special counsels independent. But Barr can’t simply flip a switch and instantaneously shut off an ongoing investigation.
     
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    Keep telling yourself that. There is no such thing as "settled science" or "irrefutable scientific evidence". If you had any kind of background in science you would know that.
     
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  18. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It doesn't surprise me that you would disingenuously rely on the phrase "there is no such thing as "settled science" to deny the science behind man-made climate change is established science. The data is overwhelming.......denied only by cranks and Trump cultists.
     
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  19. Dayton3

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    The fact you call Trump supporters "cranks" and "cultists" is one more reason to take nothing you say seriously.

    I'm worried how you'll even stay alive when Trump wins reelection in 2020. Not my first choice but of course better than the known alternatives.
     
  20. JakeStarkey

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    Confirmation science by the antis is fake science.

    Climate Change is a fact. The only question that needs to be answered is how much does human behavior effect it.
     
  21. Dayton3

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    Well I don't argue the climate is changing. It always changes.
     
  22. JakeStarkey

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    ????? Ok :)
     

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