I say the best possible government is the least possible government

Looks like someone has been reading The Turner Diaries.

Very simple question.

Has a non-state society such as you(vaguely) describe ever actually existed?

 

In other words fantasyland. Got it.

 

That's a great question. It's kind of like asking whether any society has ever existed that doesn't have slavery.

But let's say that the answer to your question is no. So?

 

Because it's the same thing that all the hardcore survivalist/prepper kooks drone on about in their apocalyptic fantasies.

 

You haven't made any credible argument to convince anyone that the state is not a criminal gang writ large.

 

The answer is no, because it has never worked, because it does not ever work, and it will not ever work... ever.

It's fantasy.

 

But we both know that the state is a criminal organization writ large, right?

 

So the state is not a criminal organization writ large?

 

So as you’ve confirmed, your idea is fantasyland. Cool. We all knew it but it’s nice you confirmed it.

 

Okay, Rainman. It's been a slice. Have fun with your Mad Max fantasies.

 

My idea? Fantasyland? The state is a criminal gang writ large. We've already agreed to this. So there's really not much more to say.

 

Wow! What a great argument. Now I see that the state is not a criminal organization. The state should hire you for some sort of public relations thingy or something.

 

We have? Where?

 

I thought we did agree. You don't agree that the state is a criminal organization writ large?

 

In what way is your state a criminal organization?

 

They violate people's person and property.

 

Someone from the state violated you? Did you report the person to the police?

 

Lol. Did I report the state to the state. That's hilarious.

The state is a criminal organization writ large. We agree upon this fact. So what do we do about it?

 

So the state hasn’t actually violated you. Got it.

 

How could the state violate me?

But we do agree that the state is a criminal organization writ large. So what are we going to do about that?

 

You said the state violates people’s person and property, so you tell me how the state could violate you.
And no, we don’t agree the state is a criminal organization. You have yet to prove it is.

 

It can't violate me. I told you that.

It kidnaps innocent people and locks them up.

 

I would think that less violence is better than more violence. Thus the best possible government (i.e. criminal gang writ large) would be the smallest possible government.

 

No you didn’t.

In general, no it doesn’t.

 

Well, I'm telling you now. It can't violate me.

It kidnaps innocent people and locks them up.

Let's say that there is some guy who owns a shotgun with a barrel less than 18 inches. They kidnap him and lock him up. There are many, many more examples.

The state is nothing more than a criminal organization writ large.