BREAKING: Robert Mueller is speaking right now, for the first time since the report was released

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  1. PrincipleInvestment

    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    I doubt reading it for the 3rd time is going to reveal anything new to me.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for pointing out that Trump didn't ask McGahn to fire Mueller, like our resident "lawyers" keep saying.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They like to mix the pages up with Narnia and Harry Potter books.
     
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    I watched it.

    I had my questions about Mueller's motives once he assembled the team that he did, and he convinced me today that he is a totally unethical and unprincipled person.

    Lawrence Walsh, special counsel in the Iran/Contra investigation, concluded that both President Reagan and Vice President Bush had violated rules/broken the law, but they were crimes for which there were no penalties. In other words, there was no point in prosecuting them. I don't even remember what those infractions were and don't care enough to look it up.

    Ken Starr did not indict or suggest President Clinton should be indicted. But in his report he clearly indicated 13 specific crimes committed by President Clinton along with his evidence for that. It was then left up to Congress what to do with it.

    Mueller had two years and millions of dollars to use to investigate. The White House provided him 1.4 million documents and refused him none. No executive privilege was evoked to prevent him from interviewing people or otherwise seeking evidence. He interviewed 500 people and indicted several--none for crimes that had anything to do with President Trump--dragged their names through the mud, broke them financially, ruined them professionally, and put unconscionable stress on their families trying to get some dirt on the President. And he had the most maliciously partisan team hostile to President Trump and pro Hillary that he could have assembled.

    And with all that, he could not point to any specific crime that President Trump had committed? He didn't have to indict. All he had to say is that he concluded that President Trump and/or members of his campaign colluded with Russians here and here and here. President Trump obstructed justice here and here and here. Mueller didn't do that.

    But what he did do this morning was pour gasoline on the fire practically insisting that the Democrats keep up their witch hunt and go after the President.

    That was dirty, slimy, unethical, and evil. Whatever respect I had for the man based on others' opinion of him is completely gone now.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Lock him up!
     
  6. Egoboy

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    Trump had the authority to fire Rosenstein if he didn't fire Mueller... he did NOT have the authority to directly fire Mueller...

    You are having a very bad day with facts... I suggest you head on back to Chris Steele threads...
     
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    For what?
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    No, he's just putting a spin on it that throws the left a worthless bone.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    1st degree aggravated felonious orange badness!
     
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  10. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Good to see a sane post on this. I do remember the GOP taking it on the chin after impeaching Clinton. I thought it was silly to impeach him over lying about getting a BJ.
     
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    You may have watched it, but you obviously didn't understand it....

    He covered why he didn't accuse the president of crimes...

    SNIP
    And second, the opinion says that the Constitution requires a process other than the criminal justice system to formally accuse a sitting President of wrong doing. And beyond Department policy we were guided by principles of fairness. It would be unfair to potentially — it would be unfair to potentially accuse somebody of a crime when there can be no court resolution of the actual charge.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.vox.com/2019/5/29/18644237/robert-mueller-remarks-transcript
     
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  12. doombug

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    What about felony bitch slapping the dems in an election?
     
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    ROTFLMAO.........not even close to reality. You only pose the question to try to make it look better than it is.
    And it not working, period.
     
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    You don't have that... stick to the facts...
     
  15. The Mello Guy

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    Obstruction works. But I’m sure once they’ve combed through his finances it’ll be more.
     
  16. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Blah, blah, blah.
     
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    It's a fact... What happened was Trump directed McGahn to direct Rosenstein to remove Mueller for very questionable conflicts of interest...

    You gonna try and contradict that??
     
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    Mueller's investigation was about Russian interference. Democrats made it about Trump's campaign working with Russia to influence the election.
     
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  19. PrincipleInvestment

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    That ... or I can give you a couple links to failed congressional resolutions to protect special counsel Bob Mueller. Mueller isn't a member of any federal government workers, or federal law enforcement union. Every DOJ appointee is subject to summary termination.
     
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    I'll agree with this.

    That was pretty disgraceful. I don't care who slick Willy was bangin', same as I don't care who the Orange Man ever gave the worst two minutes of her life.
     
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    Great... another RW'er disposed of...
     
  22. doombug

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    I do stick to the facts.
     
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    Thanks for admitting to the witch hunt.
     
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    The people decided to turn the House Democratic in 2018, knowing full well that they would hold Trump accountable. His odds at reelection aren't looking good. Trump's floundering is what is going to ruin the Republican's chances at continued governance.

    I used to think that Trump was just being used by Putin. That most of the Russia connection was a result of incompetence, which the Mueller report seems to indicate, when it comes to Don Jr.

    But Trump's current cover up tactics have convinced me that he has a whole lot more to hide. That he is as corrupt as the day is long.
     
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    Just like voters decided Hillary Clinton was guilty of illegally storing classified information on her private server.
     
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