In 3 Years, Cops Have Killed 450% More Citizens Than 4 Decades of Mass Shootings COMBINED

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  1. TedintheShed

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    A tragedy in Florida unfolded Wednesday afternoon when a psychotic former student terrorized a high school and the nation as he walked into the school and began shooting and killing students. The terrorist shooter killed 17 people.

    It is no surprise that the hashtag #GunReformNow is already trending on Twitter as politicians and advocacy groups alike—like every time before—begin milking this tragedy for their political agenda.

    Sadly, most people who call for gun control to realize what that actually means—only the government has the guns.

    Every time a lunatic, who is usually on some form mind-altering pharmaceutical, goes on a shooting rampage, the do-gooders in Washington, with the aid of their citizen flocks, take to the TV and the internet to call for disarming the American people.

    The citizens who call for themselves and their neighbors to be disarmed, likely think no deeper than the shallow speeches given by the political blowhards, designed to appeal to emotion only. They do not think of what happens during and after the government attempts to remove guns from society. They also completely ignore the fact that criminals do not obey laws and making guns illegal would have zero effect on criminals possessing guns.

    In the perfect statist world in which only the government has guns, we’re told that crime rates would plummet, people wouldn’t be murdered, gun violence would be brought to its knees, and a disarmed heaven on Earth would ensue. But how effective would disarming the citizens actually be at preventing gun violence, while at the same time keeping guns in the hands of government?

    One simple way to determine the outcome would be to compare mass shootings in America with those killed by police. It is entirely too easy to compare all senseless murders carried out by the state to those carried out by citizens, so we will zoom in with a microscope.

    However, just as a point of reference, in the 20th Century alone, governments were responsible for 260,000,000 deaths worldwide. That number is greater than all deaths from illicit drug use, STD’s, Homicides, and Traffic Accidents — combined.

    Now, on to the micro-comparison.

    According to a comprehensive database of all American mass shootings that have taken place since 1982, constructed by Mother Jones, there have been exactly 816 deaths attributed to mass shootings that have taken place on American soil.

    As Mother Jones notes, in their database, they exclude shootings stemming from more conventional crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. Other news outlets and researchers have published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings may be useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at the distinct phenomenon of mass shootings—from the firearms used to mental health factors and the growing copycat problem.

    If we were to compare the 816 citizens killed in mass shootings to citizens killed by police in the same time frame, the comparison would be off the charts. So, for the sake of simplicity, we will compare all of the mass shooting deaths in the last 35 years, to the number of citizens killed by police since the beginning of last year.

    Already, in 2018, American police have killed 153 people. When we add that to 1,189 people killed by police in 2017, that number is 1,342. This number is set to increase by one, on average, every 8 hours.

    When comparing the total number of mass shootings over the last 35 years to just the last 14 months of police killings the ratio is 1.6 to 1, citizens killed by cops vs. citizens killed in mass shootings. That is a massive difference.

    The comparison is staggering and should shock the conscience. But to truly get a perspective, lets go back three years and compare all of the citizens killed by cops since the beginning of 2015 to the number of mass shooting deaths.

    Since 2015, cops in America have killed 3,733 citizens.

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    Very well done.

    I am highly skeptical of the Parkland event. There are many facts NEVER discussed by the mainstream media. Indeed, those facts are suppressed by MSM, and all point to the probable conclusion that the young man accused did not do the shooting. It's entirely possible he is a product and victim of MKUltra type conditioning, including psychoactive drugs.

    Sorry for the rant. Yes, citizens killed by police amount to a very high number.
     
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    This isn't just an indictment on gun control, it is an indictment of the militarized police state.

    I'll see a pro 2A sticker right below "Blue lives matter" sticker. Well, who the hell do they think is going to come and take their guns, some limp wristed politician?

    No, it will be the militarized police force. It's like they have Stockholm Syndrome.
     
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    This is an outstanding theme idea, by you.

    Except for one thing. You potentially hurt your chances of being taken seriously by the people who need this great info the most.

    Here's why:

    The way you presented this on Wednesday 5-29-19 could give an impression that it just happened, yesterday, instead of months ago. Which could then, switch readers into newsflash mode. Only to find out, that this story is not breaking news but is in fact from months ago. So now, readers might scoff at you for your antic, instead of indulging in this intrepid info you published here.
     
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    The headline may sound shocking, but it's more a testament to how few victims of "mass shootings" there have been over the last 40 years, than an indictment of the "rampaging LEOs of America".
    816 deaths over 40 years? That's like 20 a year.

    Compare that to the street crime murders in just Chicago each and every year which is around 500. And that's one city, in just one year.
    Now let's compare that to how many people are killed by the police in Chicago in a year.

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    Notice the numbers? Notice the trend?

    It's funny how the HUGE numbers get ignored, while the smaller numbers get HYPED. Why is that?
     
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    This is like comparing apples to oranges, since cops are supposed to be protecting and preserving We The People. And not, being criminals.

    That's considering how cops are viewed as protecting the society whereas criminals are viewed as preying upon the society.


    Therefore quite simply it is not based in, logic, to compare criminals' mindset and gunfire output to cops' mindset and gunfire output.
     
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    According to the National Review, 1,501 police officers have been killed in the line of duty in the past ten years and 15, 658 injured. Just a little perspective.
     
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    I only care about wrongful shootings, truly justified shooting I have no issue with
     
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    In that case, the numbers plunge way way down.
     
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    Justifiable homicide and suicides should never be included in honest discussions about gun rights.
     
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    Don't mistake Democrats with guns as actual police officers.
     
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    Well said.... and the increase in arrests of Human Traffickers over the Obama years would also factor into the formula as well!

    Human Trafficking Arrests since 2010:
    2018.... 5987
    2017.... 3213
    2016.... 1952
    2015.... 1437
    2014.... 1771
    2013.... 1877
    2012.... 967
    2011.... 938
    2010.... 300


    The people who do such things......
    tend to not want to get caught.......
    and are willing to use lethal force to not get caught...... so Cops have to use lethal force when dealing with this type of criminal.
     
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    Has it EVER occurred to you that because GUNS ARE SO PREVALENT IN OUR AMERICAN SOCIETY that police have to assume that virtually everyone they try to apprehend may very well be armed???So obviously they constantly feel their life is in danger and act accordingly.
     
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    Wow, gonna need about 8 beers to absorb this one.

    Wow
     
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    Trying to enfeeble the masses by disarming them is a theme as old as civilization itself. Only those with no understanding of history would support the gun control agenda being pushed on us by the ruling class.
     
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    I would also add that the gun control movement has recently achieved peak irony.

    On the one hand, they claim the US government is in the hands of a racist, traitorous, mentally impaired individual by the name of Donald Trump.

    But on on the other hand, they dismiss the urgency of maintaining a well-armed populace as a necessary check on tyranny.
     
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    So what? The people the police killed were totally justified, armed and dangerous criminals who posed a direct threat to life. The victims of mass shootings are innocent.
     
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    Make it 12 beers, or remain sober. Being sober might make it easier.

    With 20+ cameras in that school, how many pictures have you seen of Cruz doing any shooting at all? With 17 dead, common sense would suggest that 1 or 2 frames from 20+ cameras would have captured the accused doing his work, but no, not a single frame.

    We were all deceived. Some have figured it out, others not so much.
     
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    I like how liberals view all deaths as equal as if each and every isolated event was the same. I am sure if the OP or Extreme Liberal minded person was put into that situation where the perp was firing back at them they would try to talk to them with open arms instead. There may be a few rogue cops out there, but the mass murders probably outnumber the rogue cops who unjustifiably killed citizens.
     
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    Well, Julia Roberts and Captain Piccard are on board with you i'm sure.

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    And maybe Alex Jones.
     
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    And if they did release all of the security footage, you'd just say it was faked.

    Your rabbit holes are bottomless, and they lead to nowhere but madness.
     
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    Anybody with common sense, anybody at all. Does that include you?
     
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    No sir, that's where you got me wrong--I would NOT say it was faked, if experts reviewed the tape and vouched for its authenticity. I seek the truth, nothing more. And if tapes existed showing somebody else doing the shooting inside those hallways, tapes showing the murder of 17 people and a bunch of high powered weapons being fired in those hallways, I would love to see them.

    That story has many holes, what with the young man with conflicting stories.
     
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    Sorry just not buying the conspiracy theory although how fully admit I haven't double-checked anything. Possible sure, anything is possible, but not likely.

    If there's more to the story I am sure somebody with a higher pay grade than myself or you can/should uncover it and I hope they do if that's true.

    Fair enough?
     
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