D-Day

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  1. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    Complete nonsense. I bet you think Dutch people wear wooden shoes, and the French all wear berets.
     
  2. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    I actually was watching it all on full display today on MSNBC. You should have watched it
     
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    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    But, but, your fuhrer starts trade wars, and tried to use tariffs as political weapons.

    The very antithesis of what your are saying.
     
  4. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    It's totally true.

    and no they don't all. Although a beret can be quite fashionable
     
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    My father? What are you talking about?
     
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    Everybody knows that Trump is a Complete Joke.

    Everybody knows that Trump has made the USA a Worldwide Laughingstock (and that nobody takes Trump seriously).

    So? Trump read a speech? Big Deal.

    The speech was obviously written for him and he probably didn't understand it.

    How low has the bar gotten, when Trump's Supporters are actually happy to discover that their Elected CLUELESS STOOGE can actually read at a 3rd Grade Level?

    Really Tragic that a Treasonous Veteran Hating Draft-Dodger (like Trump) had to represent the USA on this Solemn Occasion.:smh:
     
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  7. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    I don’t watch television during the day at all. Never have. Probably never will (unless the weather is really bad, or I’m really tired).

    And I have never relied on television as a primary news source.

    Besides, all these talking head shows are really boring. There is little real news. Just a lot of pundits trying to repeat talking points and appear to be just a tiny bit smarter than the audience. It’s a shopworn format that is way overused by all the cable “news” channels.

    I do sometimes listen to the audio feeds on Sirius, including Fox.
     
  8. TomFitz

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    I’ll assume from your totally adolescent reply that you got my point,
     
  9. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    No, I have no idea what my father has to do with any of this
     
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    Yet, you seem to know everything every RW TV host has said since the beginning of time.
     
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    struth Well-Known Member

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    Well I encourage you to view it on line, the speech, when you have a moment t
     
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    I'm just surprised Trump lets Merkle even show up …. she's such a loser. (JOKE)
     
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    He would have slapped you in the face for thinking that anyone slightly right of FAR LEFT is a Nazi.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Indeed. If only we had a time machine...
     
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    Just wanted to leave this here...
     
  16. TomFitz

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    BS. My parents knew what facism is.

    And they would recognize it in the movements that Trump salutes and promotes.

    The right wing reactionary forces that are on the march in some parts of Europe right now are little different from the ones that arose in all the countries that I mentioned in the 1930’s.

    I realize that Trumpsters got all their history from American WWII movies, but the realities of European politics of that period were a lot different from what most Americans know (or knew then) and a lot more complex.

    But appeals to working class resentment, fear of ”the other”, hyper nationalism, appeals to ignorance and bigotry were all present then, just as they are now.

    If you’re under the false impression that there were no ultra right wing nationalist movements in Europe other than Hitler and Mussolini, you don’t know anything about the subject.
     
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    You’d have to tell me., You’re the one that keeps bringing him up. I never mentioned him at all.
     
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    Trump liked the Nazi's in Charlottesville. But that's not really the point. I just wonder what relevance D-Day commemorations have if the allied and post-WWII alliances are coming apart. And I agree with Trump that the US was paying the lion's share. But the point of D-day commemorations are a united and democratically elected Western Europe. I'm just not sure where we are with that.
     
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    My eyes get moist as well, when I'm rolling them in the back of my head....

    But I understand the reviews weren't his normal shitty ones, so kudos for fulfilling the most basic and elemental duty of a president on a National Day of Remembrance... I guess he's capable of appearing presidential for 15 minutes a month.... Who knew?

    Thank goodness he read what was written for him and stayed there...
     
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    Well, he did manage to promote Nigel Farage, campaign for a candidate for Prime Minister of another country, and tell people that the UK National Health Service was his business.

    Frankly, in the UK, the Beverly Hillbillies had more gravitas than these idiots.
     
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    That Jethro certainly knew how to make a deal with House Democrats....
     
  22. TomFitz

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    That’s because folks like you parrot it here every day.
     
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    The members of the National Socialist German Workers' Party were exactly what they said they were - national socialists - and as the name of their party suggests, their ideology is rooted in socialism.

    Furthermore, as F.A. Hayek pointed out in Chapter 12 of The Road to Serfdom, "The Socialist Roots of Nazism":

    "It is significant that the most important ancestors of National Socialism [Johann Gottlieb] Fricht, [Johann Karl] Rodbertus and {Fredinand] Lassalle - are at the same time acknowledged fathers of socialism."

    Or as Mussolini pointed out in his fascist manifesto:

    "...in the great river of Fascism one can trace currents which had their source in Sorel, Peguy, Lagardelle of the Movement Socialists..."

    Obviously, they weren't Marxists, but that didn't make them Austrian School libertarians, as many socialists - oops, "progressives" - would have us believe.
     
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  24. struth

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    Facism isn't about democratic elections, free and fair trade, and capitalism....that's what the current President promotes.

    I agree all those things were present in Europe at the time, and actually in the United States...hence the priogressive movement and folks like WIlson....not much as changed in terms of the left attempts to win votes.
     
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    Sorry I re-read your post...you said fuhrer....I'm not sure what you are talking about...I don't have a fuhrer...that's a German word...I speak English, it also means "leader" - I don't have a "leader," only folks that believe in leftist ideological views, like National Socialism, look to Govt officials as their "leaders" - I look at them as representatives, that I hope have leadership skills...but not my leader...they are equals among me
     
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