Two oil tankers struck in suspected attacks in Gulf of Oman

These figures don’t reflect American components that are being sold under different brands. A Laptop that was made in China is counted as Russian-Chinese trade, even though manufacturer of the laptop had to pay American companies for semiconductors (including CPU) and software.
Even TVs has American components or components. American components are literally on majority of all electronics that are made these days.

 

Let me guess, US has "proof" "Solid proof"

 

Well there are at least 4 Iranian gunboats guarding the damaged oiler....sort of proof like, and they did seize the crew from another vessel who had rescued them...

 

Whatever makes you feel great and powerful.

 

We gots examples. Like the fake WMD claim from the Americans.
We also got the US faking to be shot at to start a war.

 

The Iranian RG patrol boat recovered a limpet mine from one of the stricken ships in order to conceal its' origins and took prisoner the crew of another ship who had already been rescued by another vessel. The Iranians have a long history of such activities, the yanks gave them a pounding last time;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis

I used to patrol the area and we were constantly briefed on the threat.

 

There were WMDs and the us isn't faking anything.

 

If such fantasies make you happy but for the rest of us, well, time for a lesson.

 

Only problem is Israel made no attempt to diguise it's planes so the theory that it was a false flag attack falls flat.

 

I have no interest in the left - and your attempt to justify the evil deeds of our intelligence community on the basis of what the left thinks is pathetic.

There are few things less patriotic and "anti american" than than trying to label those who call out Gov't crimes as "anti American" I am sure that Chairman Mao would have loved your ideology and deep seated love for Gov't authority though.

 

I love the way you always claim you are not on the left but mouth every leftist talking point in the book.
What's anti American is using our intelligence agencies to attempt a coup on a sitting president.

 

No..such...proof.

 

Sure...they did all that with the US Navy in plain sight.

 

This above is beyond idiotic ... The idea that only the left criticizes the Gov't is patent falsehood on steroids and even if it were not patent falsehood it would still be logical fallacy on steroids .. the left is not always wrong.

Your problem is that you label anyone and anything that conflicts with your belief (right wrong or otherwise) as coming from the left in some kind of demonization rant.

Agreed - and I argue this against liberals all the time - to which you joyfully click "Like". The difference being that I actually have valid arguments unlike some others.

Do you like the fact that the Pentagon/Intelligence pundits spew falsehoods on a regular basis, conduct false flags for evil purposes and so on.

Are you giddy over the fact that we armed and supported Al Qaeda and other Islamist groups of the same ilk - as they raped and killed and persecuted Christians and other minority sects - an action which led to the death of over 500,000 people, a refugee crisis which further spread the plague of Islamist extremism all over the world and led to the rise of the modern incarnation of ISIS.

Are you happy that we gave Al Qaeda sophisticated military technology such as surface air missiles (manpads) perfect for taking our civilian airliners ... does this give you joy.

The majority of "the left" supports the above - and the majority on the right. There are however a number of Republican politicians who have called out these atrocious actions for what they are .. and some on the left.

Your mind is messed up - and that is that. Get a grip.

 

I believe they acted at night but sort of forgot night vision devices and drones

 

Left, right, snowflakes etc I'd like to know why some turn topics into a bung fight of a US political nature. The world is tired of these left/right debates that never gets resolved.

The question was - "Two oil tankers struck in suspected attacks in Gulf of Oman" maybe we can talk about the actual incident and what has developed since. ?

 

Well here is what the bombing achieved

and the article goes into what has already been discussed that the people on board the attacked boats are very clear it was not mines but things that arrived from the air

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/06/14/us-iran-oil-tanker-attacks-kyrgyzstan/

People should be aware that in this day and age anyone with any knowledge can make up a video to show anything. It is interesting that this arrived a few hours after I watched a BBC interviewer suggesting to the US the US monitoring services must have footage.

Sorry when the people who were attacked, the people who were actually there and experienced it say it is something quite different to the US and when the effect of the attack was to harm Iran re above meeting, the US (and allies) remains the top suspect. When Iran further lose out on it, see first quote, it just reinforces this.

 

The only thing the article mentions specifically regarding the SCO meeting is this:

The US government’s accusations may have at least partially derailed Iran’s diplomatic efforts, as Modi cancelled a bilateral meeting with Rouhani at the last minute, vaguely citing “scheduling issues.”

India is trying to ride the fence between East and West and hoping to capitalize, much like Erdogan has done in Turkey. Otherwise, the administration's accusations didn't get much traction at the SCO. Likely, it just cemented the group's resolve towards a multi-polar world system.

Edit: The more direct line can be drawn with the attacks on the ships occurring while Abe was in Iran on a state visit. What effect it will have in Japan/Iran relations remains to be seen.

 

Ok Given that the article yesterday from the same person was speaking about the Japan meeting and that Iran was hoping with its meeting with Japan to make a breakthrough on overcoming the effects of sanctions, I assumed that is what this was speaking about

but possibly I was wrong.

here is the previous article

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/06/13/iran-gulf-of-oman-attacks-japan-talks/

 

There is a strange video purporting to show the things flying from above. I can't work it out. It looks to me like a boat jumping across!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1139393836021456899

 

I don't think you were wrong. I think the article made too much of Modi's cancellation. That is about as newsworthy as a chameleon changing color.

IMO, the meeting with Abe would have been the more important concern for Iran.

 

Possibly because he had dealt with that the day before and would have been expecting those who read his article to have read it he went on to the next thing?

 

But Woogs that would mean I, not Ben Norton got it wrong in emphasising that in the way I did.

 

Nah, he emphasized it by bolding the SCO mention just below the headline, giving Modi's stunt more attention than it deserved.

You were fine in the way you posted IMO. Made me look LOL!

 

Oh well, if that's what Washington says then it has to be true.

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Why? Because we said it. Finito!

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