Colorado Christian cakeshop sued a third time for discrimination.

First, Colorado did not sue him, they penalized him for violating anti discrimination ordinances. He sued them. Get your basic facts straight if you would like to discuss the case.

Second, the initial claim against him was a narrow ruling and it did not address whether or not he had discriminated (or if it was allowed) but rather because the animus the CCRC showed towards the bakers religious beliefs.

I am not aware of a second suit to the SCOTUS from Masterpiece. Care to post a source so I can educate myself. I couldn’t find it on my attempts.

The issue still stands

 

People get ‘free government benefits’ just from having sex!
Wow, where can I sign up?

That — like everything you have put forth in this thread — is a lie.

 

You are really bitter

The Old Testiment is a historical document as well as the Word of God

But the rules changed when Jesus was born

 

Atheism is not the same thing as bitterness. If god existed, a book of words would not be necessary.

 

Which makes total sense when you think about it.
The all seeing all knowing creator of heaven and earth had to kill himself to rewrite laws which he himself had created.

If that makes sense to you you shouldn’t be in charge of others.

 

No you didn't. I asked "what punishment will you support to punish girls that have sex under 21 and not married?". I didn't mention anything about being pregnant

 

So you want to punish women who have a baby but not those who don't get pregnant?

 

Perhaps you should ask the "Christian" who wants to punish girls that have sex under 21 and are not married

 

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Headlines!!!
Icing a Cake Destroys Christianity !!!

How easily they fell

But it's OK if Anti-Choicers impose their moral convictions on others??? That's called tyranny.

NO one was imposing anything on the poor scared little baker...if he's forced to obey the laws he'll lose his Christianity??!!! His faith must be quite weak!!

Uh, that describes the Christians who are on the baker's side ... """sees themselves as 'gods' and the arbitrators of right and wrong.""

Isn't pride a sin with Christians?

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WELFARE IS FOR CHILDREN..,....so you only think children are "precious" before birth???? Why do you want to withhold aid for poor children?


Did Jesus????

 

Are you saying Jesus was wrong and we should hate others and discriminate against them..."them" being creations of his father, God?

 

That would have been fine if they didn't want certain things written on top, and if they didn't emphasize they were homosexual. In other words it's harassment!

It depends on an individuals interpretation. The OT can be approached through a negative and unaccepting attitude, or through an enlightened positive one.

God is presented as a punishing Father figure in the OT only because people wouldn't be able to understand the consequences of their own actions otherwise. We haven't reached a level yet where we could understand the relationship between humanity, and everything that exists in the world.

God was warning mankind in the OT, and what He was warning against has gone on for millenniums when His Words weren't heeded. The destruction though was always limited to certain places. Today it's different. Our offense towards creation and the natural order of things has become universal.

Other than the wars that we keep throwing the world into, the earth is heating up. There are major earthquakes and what appears like an enormous volcano has even popped up in the ocean near New York City. It lays about an equal distance from New Jersey and Massachusetts.

 

In this case there wasn't anything required to be written on top

 

I have agreed with that, as long as no pro-gay wording, the baker shoudl just sell the same cake the same way he would make it if a non gay made the same request

 

As a conservative Christian, I don't really understand the controversy. If I owned a bakery, and you wanted a cake celebrating your polyamorous relationship with your three transgender husbands and cis-gender wife, I'd make (and sell) the cake. Baking a cake doesn't endorse what it's celebrating. I don't feel that Publix (FL grocery store with a decent bakery) endorsed my sons when I had cakes made to celebrate their Eagle Scout ceremonies/

 

Homosexuals with the exception of a few, are not the 'creations' of their Father no more than pedophiliacs are. They are the product of a society that has gone haywire and allowed the abnormal to enter people's minds. Why do you think it was almost unheard of in Western Europe (and no, they were not in the closet), and yet commonplace in pagan societies - many of which ceased to exist shortly afterwards like ancient Corinth for instance.

I'm basing my opinion on two sources. One is a catalogue from the Metropolitan Museum of Art on the Belle Epoque. It stated that even though Lesbianism was laughed at in Paris, homosexuality was abhorrent to them and almost non existent.

The other is the official biography of Lawrence of Arabia. His friend who was a homosexual said he would have loved to have had an affair with Lawrence, but the era was such that homosexuality was something that didn't even enter people's minds.

 

It's not the cake it's the wording on the cake. Look, no one should impose themselves on others. The man has his beliefs and his convictions and they knew it.

 

Good point. Religious beliefs often result in wars while the belief that it is acceptable for 2 people of the same sex to love each other has not. That makes their beliefs superior to yours.

 

I wouldn't care about the wording. I am a strong conservative Christian. I don't see how putting any kind of writing or decoration on a cake for a customer is at all my endorsement of what they are doing. I think his belief and convictions don't apply. I just think it's silly on both sides. Make the man the cake, write what he wants on it, and go on with your life. For the customers--if you know the guy doesn't want your business, find a gay cake baker who would be happy with making the extra money. Both sides are just stupid on this one.

 

Yup, if it's bad "god" didn't do it....if it's good then give "god" credit....even though Christians claim that their "god" created everything....they ALWAYS find a loophole, a scapegoat, a wriggle and a squirm..

Your version of history is myopic and inaccurate. For instance just because someone at some time thought homosexuality was abhorrent didn't mean it didn't exist...that is laughable skewed "logic"...


You REALLY think that because someone at one time laughed at lesbians that they didn't exist?? C'mon....there is NO logic in that...


BTW, discrimination is a form hate.....did your Jesus advocate for that???

 

OH NO!!!! Bake a cake for gays and don't ya know...you turn GAY!!! No, really that happens....and then you turn into a heathen and sacrifice virgins(if you can find any Christian virgins ) and do all kinds of bad things!!!!

 

Why do you appear to be god's special spokesperson?

 

Oh then the 'atheist' Soviet Union must have been a lovely place. Peace or the Gulag, but look we're getting there. Just don't blame atheism.

Oops! We have another god here. Setting your own standards now aren't you?

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We are the gods of lofty see
and suffer not your misery
for unlike you a mortal fool
it's us above that sets the rule - Jeannette​

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Yes, there was another god there. A god-man named Josef Stalin with a massive cult of personality. He was the Kim Jong Un and Donald Trump of his time.

 

I'm projecting a Christian viewpoint. At least I'm not making myself an alternate god and declaring my own. Big difference!

I am a god!​