This Cop Is Getting $2,500 a Month Because Killing an Unarmed Man in a Hotel Hallway Gave Him PTSD

You're right, it doesn't.

I'm not one to cast doubt on or trivialize medical diagnoses. That's kind of the basis of my opinion here.

I don't know what he looks like. You do realize that this kind of rhetoric is exactly the kind of thing that racists use when trying to cast doubt on the character of unarmed African-Americans gunned down by the police?

What do his looks tell you about him? He's a cop with tattoos. So what?

 

What he had inscribed — against department policy — on his rifle says more about him than his tattoos. I am completely fine with policing with a basis on appearance and relevant data, until they start executing people for the fun of it.

Starting an encounter off with “we will kill you if you don’t hop on one foot while crawling backwards with your palms up” isn’t the best way to investigate an accusation of a visible gun in a state that allows open carry.

Zero other officers felt the situation warranted lethal force, only Mr “you’re ****ed”.
May he meet his due recompense

 

It doesn't say enough about him to categorize him as a cold-blooded killer. More significant evidence points otherwise. See: Professional diagnosis.

I don't know what you mean by "policing with a basis on appearance and relevant data." I'm not talking about profiling, at all. I'm talking about judging people with such gravity on pretty innocuous aspects of their appearance.

The cop killed him because he thought was reaching for something on his back. I think the cop was probably too jumpy and scared. I don't think he was eager to murder.

Even if you're right, whether or not the situation warranted lethal force isn't what we're discussing. What we're discussing is the way that leftists, and I am one, have an unhealthy habit of focusing rage against systematic oppression onto individuals in ambiguous situations.

The fact that we end up discussing the personal character of Trayvon Martin or Phillip Brailsford is a political travesty. It's so not the point.

 

The fact that the man was fired, rehired, diagnosed with PTSD and then given benefits only points to the likelihood of members of the system protecting each other.

The cop is a cold blooded murderer and as such should suffer the death penalty, not get benefits for killing an innocent citizen.

When it comes to corruption in the system, the state of Arizona is among the worst.

 

No, it doesn't. That's not how analysis works. You want to talk numbers, talk numbers.

You don't know that, and if you think the evidence against him is enough to kill him, you're delusional.

Definitely true. Definitely a systemic problem.

 

If the situation warranted lethal force the other officers would have fired. They didn’t.

Medical diagnosis is not set in stone, it is the opinion of a single individual.
I live in Appalachia, an area where the doctors have dispensed opiates like it is sugarless gum, I have seen the medical industry up close and personal. Their opinion means very little.

In your personal opinion, what do you believe “you’re ****ed” and “Molon labe” on the side of a rifle indicates?

That he is there to assist the public, that he is a kind soul, that he doesn’t want to harm someone unless it is absolutely necessary to protect the public?

He had also been cited with prior excessive force before he executed the father of two

 

The rehire was forced due to administrative procedures and the state did try to convict him. They couldn’t do much else honestly.

The judge in the case withheld condemning evidence and is as bad as any of the actors.

I completely agree his fate should be the same as the man he murdered however.
Give him a set of commands and a single slip, done.

 

A completely illogical claim. There are situations which warrant lethal force where none will fire, and situations that don't warrant lethal force where all fire.

I'm not saying the cop should have fired. I'm saying that the fact that he did fire doesn't prove malice, even if 999 cops out of 1,000 wouldn't have fired.

As opposed to your opinion based on watching a video of a tense situation, a picture of a tatted cop, and an edgy gun?

Anti-psychiatric sentiment is, in my opinion, one of the biggest problems in American culture.

I don't care what it indicates.

I'm an honest man, and I'll share my opinion: The tatted cop looks like your typical "tough guy" cop, a man extremely insecure in his masculinity who thinks he has something to prove. Could that have contributed to this shooting? Absolutely. Does the gun "indicate" the same to me? Yes.

Is my opinion based on a single picture of a man, and a single artifact of his life, enough to condemn him as a cold-blooded murder? No. Especially not when what I see in the video and the medical diagnosis we see indicate the opposite.

Okay, abolish the ****ing police. I'm on board. I'm not coming at this from some kind of pro-police "Blue Lives Matter" dipshittery.

Fits nicely with my "tough guy with something to prove" interpretation of the man.

 

"Condemning evidence." It's like fourth-order circumstantial.

 

MAGA

 

He was a cop.

 

Good, glad his department is looking after him, wish we had more like this.

 

exactly, I have said many times, carrying a gun makes you a threat to cops, your more likely to be shot by a cop if your carrying a gun.. even a toy gun.. this is why they banned the cell phone cases that looked like guns, the police actually issues warnings not to use them

 

The thing that strikes me is the almost swat like presence of the police here, in an open carry state, where an anonymous person in a hot tub called and said he was waving a rifle out the window. Guests in his room said the gun was a pellet gun that he used for work and he had only shown it to them but never even opened a window.

I wonder if the murderer believed he was reaching for a rifle of out the back of his ill fitting basketball shorts?

 

You are glad he murdered an unarmed, innocent, non-aggressive taxpayer and now taxpayers will pay that murderer for the rest of his life?

Only in America.

 

and anyone watching the video of it, could tell this was just a guy scared out of his mind by the crazy tone of the officer, this officer made this happen, it was easily avoidable, when he was flat on the ground, tell him not to move and contain him, did he really think a crazy killer brought his girlfriend to the show, they both were trying to comply the best they could after a night out drinking a few drinks and having some fun while on vacation, but he was scaring them to death so it made it very hard to comply and on top of it the crazy orders he gave him

remind me if a cop ever does that to me, lay flat, hands out in front of me and not obey his orders as he is just playing with his catch looking for an easy kill

heck, some may have PTSD just from watching the video of the cop executing that innocent man, they should get $2,500.00 a month

 

How is that leather flavored lollipop?

 

Who can explain the whim of the gods?

Judges do many things that befuddle mere mortals like us

 

Oh c'mon, there's no objective way to diagnose ptsd! The cop would only need to lie about symptoms or find a dr willing to hand out the wanted diagnosis - easily found for a price (see trumps bone spurs). I do hope the POS cop does in fact have it though, it would be a sliver of justice in this shitshow. The cop deserves a much worse fate.

 

Referring to the judges as gods....literally worshiping the state.

 

My reference was tongue-in-cheek

There are few here with less respect for the black robe class than myself

 

They're fools, obviously.

 

The standard procedure is to treat any suspect not under control as a threat. How an officer places a suspect under control varies per situation and training.

 

So you think it's okay for the government to treat all gun owners like dangerous criminals. Noted.

 

He was not shooting a gun at all.

He was not brandishing his weapon in public. He was sitting inside his room showing the gun to two other people.

The officers made numerous assumptions based on no real proof and now an innocent man is dead because of it. There is simply no justification for their behavior.