Israeli air strikes target Palestinian group in eastern Lebanon

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    HRW is forbidden from entering KSA.

    and no, you dont have to actually visit to condemn a nation's human rights violations.

    Ive never been to China or Iran or Cuba or North Korea, but I still condemn their atrocities.

    dont you?
     
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    To go back to the real issue in this thread, it is clear that Hezbollah is planning to hit back at Israel -- and that the usual suspects are trying hard to tie its hands in doing so.
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/hezbo...-strike-on-israel-that-wont-spark-war-report/
    Hezbollah plans ‘calculated strike’ on Israel that won’t spark war — report
     
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    Maybe you ought to consider Israel's atrocities.
     
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    This depends only on how much money Iran is committing to spend on the reconstruction of the Shia in Lebanon after the next war.
    So far, after wiping 4 zeros from their currency, it looks like the only thing they can buy Hizabla to do is to trash talk Israel.
    Do you think trash talking is worth the price Iran citizens pay to support Hizabla?
    I don't, but hey, who am I to stop Iranian leaders from destroying Iranian economy even more?
     
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    Wiping 4 zero's, doesn't mean they are having a high inflation now.
    It can, but it doesn't need to be.

    And if you think Iran will just let Syria out of it's geopolitical hemisphere,... yeah well. Good luck with praying.
     
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    Actualy I don't mind Iran spending endless funds in their empire dreams in Syria. Let them fight with Assad, Russia, Turkey and Lebanon over the leftovers of the Syrian economy. They all bleed money and man there.
     
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    They fight alongside with Russia and Assad. And them 3 together have deep pockets. And they get more out of it than them Israeli leaches who get a couple of billion bucks a year in aid from US taxpayers.
     
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    that place is just a disgusting mess
     
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    While Iran did suffer a major decline in the value of its currency (by up to 60%) last year in anticipation of the sanctions about to be imposed by Trump, with Iran's economy curiously stabilizing once those sanctions were actually imposed:), you are right that the drop in the zeroes in the Iranian currency isn't about the inflation Iran has experienced recently. This is about various times and shocks which have caused similar or even worse devaluation of Iran's currency over the past 40 years.
     
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    The Persian citizens are paying the price for having Ayatullas as their leaders.
    Not for long.
    Allah will take care of that .. Inshallahh
     
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    I agree that the war being waged on Iran exacts a heavy price, but the cost pales in comparison to the kind of security Iran enjoys. And it still costs less than the tribute the Saudis, the UAE and some others have to pay to buy American military junk.

    Syria is bigger than Lebanon -- and the devastation it experienced greater than whatever Israel might do to Lebanon.
    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20190305-irans-ambitious-post-war-reconstruction-in-syria/
    Iran’s ambitious post-war reconstruction in Syria
    As for Lebanon itself, if history is any guide, Iran will be there to help with its reconstruction:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-22878198
    Hezbollah heartlands recover with Iran's help
     
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    Would it matter who we had as our leaders, so long as they insisted on Iran not being a vassal of America? Was Syria a "theocracy"? Was Iraq a "theocracy"?

    Better for Iran to suffer these costs, than to be either a vassal state or suffer what others have gone through in our region. As a vassal state, we would still be importing billions in US made military equipment instead of learning to build them on our own. We would have to suffer the indignity of seeing US military advisers instruct our military on how and when to use the equipment we had purchased. We would have to learn to parrot whatever it was America's leaders wanted us to be saying about developments even in our own backyard. Instead of seeing the huge rise in the number of restaurants, hotels, shopping malls and other cultural centers representing the best of Irano-Islamic civilization in modern garb, we would have to see our country turned into another cookie-cutter version of America, with the usual multinational companies dominating the economic landscape. Instead of Iranian fast food chains which now cater to even the westernized tastes in Iran, we would have McDonald's and Burger King and KFC dominate our market.

    America has to do a better job selling itself than the image that comes across from it these days, and find better allies than its current best buddies (Israel and Saudi Arabia), for anyone to find it an appealing partner or friend.
     
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    Nope - and you don't either because you have no clue what you are talking about.
     
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    Do you live in Iran ?
     
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    I live in Iran, although at the moment, I am not in Iran. I recently bought a vacation house in Turkey and am spending the summer there.
     
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    Good for you.
    You should visit the Grand Bazar in Istanbul .. Lot's of tourists .. shopping .. Maybe you will even meet Israelis..
    Enjoy.
     
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    I have visited Istanbul plenty of times, but that is not where I would buy a vacation home. Where I am is very nice, plenty of tourists, but also away from the hustle and bustle of a large city.

    But talking about bazaars, my favorite is the one in Isfahan in Iran, followed by another one in Iran, in Shiraz. Both are excellent. And in both cities, you will also find their modern versions too since right now 3 of the biggest shopping malls in the world are in Iran. Tehran, which has literally hundreds of American style malls, just recently opened the biggest mall in the region and, by some measures, in the world: "The Iran Mall". It is more like a museum than a typical shopping mall! Isfahan has not only its old traditional bazaar next to Isfahan's grand square, but the Isfahan City Center -- ranked among the top 10 biggest shopping malls in the world. And the same with Shiraz; besides the old and beautiful bazaar of Shiraz, you can also go to the "Persian Gulf Mall" in Shiraz -- one of the world's biggest shopping malls.

    If you were interested, I could give you a virtual tour of these places. I think it might open you eyes on the real Iran, as opposed to the one you are crusading against.
     
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    I do not have to open my eyes on the real Iran.
    Many times i wrote that Most Persians are proud and good people .. the problem is their evil full of hatred Fanatic Ayatullas region.
    I hope that Allah will change Iran to Secular democracy
     
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    Secular meaning non-religious (as opposed to anti-religious), and not one merely copying and mimicking another civilization (West), would be fine with me. But if democracy means government by special interest groups and those who can buy politicians the best, I prefer not. To be sure, I like a representative system, but one which nonetheless would have a philosopher king (an idea that Plato had and outlined in his Republic) by whatever title, and I prefer this "philosopher king" to gain his position by virtue of being chosen from an elected Assembly of Experts as opposed to based on hereditary. What I don't like about Iran's system, and there are plenty that I don't like, require reforms that would completely eradicate the influence of dogma over reason (Shia Islam has the means to get there), and which would also establish a more efficient, more rigorous, and more coherent legal system as opposed to the mixed soup of inconsistent recipes poured together that we have now.
     
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    I cannot understand how anybody will want to live under fanatic religious region.. with revolutionary Guards riding on motorcycles and beating civilians mercilessly.
    Catching people and sending them to prisons where they often disappear after being tortured.
    God forbid .
     
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    Hezbollah didn't exist until the mid 1980s.. Its just more reaction to Israeli abuses.
     
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    Have you actually been there and witnessed the Guards beating and torturing the civilian Iranians? OR are you falling for Western propaganda?
    If I was forced to decide whether I wanted to live in Iran or in Palestine, I definitely would chose Iran.
     
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    Me neither. Thank God that is not the place I live in. Iran is just not what you imagine it to be, but what can I say: you are convinced you know best! It is like you talking to someone who only sees and hears about police brutality cases in the US (including many out of context or outdated), who is only shown US prisons and the US inner city and its slums. Some pictures of US bombing places. And some pictures of American politicians. But repeatedly, over and over again, pictures of drugs, inner city crime, prisons, police brutality cases, demonstrations against this or that issue in the US, conversation with America with its dissidents, and then more and more of the same again. You see that enough, and live in a world that is not dominated by the US media regardless of any official media, and you may end up imagining things about America which will either be inaccurate or totally misleading.

    Iran is not, at all, what you imagine. Very different than what you think. Take the time to open your eyes. Begin with what a fellow American visitor to Iran would show and tell you about it.



     
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