The Not so Subtle Moral Decay of the US Military

That rag had to have been created by the same Russian provocateurs who attempted to interfere in our 2016 election.

 

War has never been a clean endeavor. Send them to fight and get the hell out of their way and let them do their jobs and come home.

 

Did you read the pro Russian ant_semitic anti-American propaganda on that site.

 

Agree...The war in Afghanistan was a justbwar and a necessary war. I agree that we should have destroyed the bad guys and made tracks for home.

 

I like the 6 month timeline idea but - what were we doing fighting the Taliban - when it was Al Qaeda we were after. The Taliban disavowed Al Qaeda right after 911 - and had nothing to do with it.

Then nary a decade later - and certainly by 2011 - we are still fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan - but we are arming and supporting Al Qaeda in Syria - and fighting on the same side as Al Qaeda in Yemen - and fighting on the same side as the nation that is the #1 State Sponsor of these Extremist Islamist groups - Saudi Arabia.

So what does a vet or someone in the military think when they were told "we are fighting Al Qaeda" - and then find out that we are actually arming and supporting Al Qaeda. Not exactly a moral booster.

 

Bullocks - who gets to decide. All you are doing is shilling for the anti freedom of speech, anti freedom of information and anti freedom of the press crowd.

 

Russian propaganda, anti Semitism, and anti Americanism , and pro Russianism needs to be opposed by any means. That goes for their vile and dangerous conspiracy descriptions. What that so called Veterans front is doing is aiding and abetting the activities of our enemies.

 

Veteranstoday

Back during the Vietnam War the left had the Vietnam Veterans Against the War. (VVAW)

Both are useful idiots of the Kremlin.

John Kerry was a useful idiot of the Kremlin back during the Vietnam War and as Obama's Secretary of State.

And the DNC ran John Kerry for President ???

More likely the Kremlin ran John Kerry for President and John Kerry got swiftboated.

 

Deleted by the Kremlin

 

This thread is going in a weird direction.

 

I am not sure that is what the Veteran's Front is doing - don't know that much about it and would need to be shown an example to make any judgement.

The fact of the matter is that criticism of the Israeli Military and treatment of the Palestinians is sometimes warranted. This is not anti semitism but that does not stop some from claiming that it is anti semitism.

Same for Pro Russianism - Often this is used as an excuse to hide or cover up the truth - which harms the US.

 

I like the idea of using old men to fly drones. Elderly people can be trained to play video games as well as anyone. They could do it from home and we have lots of oldsters just sitting around and getting into trouble.

 

The US military is and remains the most well-behaved and benign to noncombatants there is in the world today.. If you're hiding in a cellar who do you want to hear going through your village? ISIS, Spetsnaz or Americans? It's still like in WWII "The Russians would kill our children after they raped the little girls, the Americans gave them candy and then fed all of us"

You're cherry picking incidents so as to make good people look bad, That is a scurrilous disservice to people who are willing to die to keep you safe.

 

So, you are saying it is the greater awareness of the public now that condemns the soldiers atrocities, although these atrocities may not have increased? Hm, I'm not so sure. I find the American leaders' attitude towards other nations snobbish and holier-than-thou. They always want to control and boss other nations around, often accusing them of cooked-up shortcomings and crimes. Venezuela is a good example right now.

WWII allies... that would include the Red Army! Yes, their crimes, against the German women especially, were swept under the carpet or excused as normal behavior.

The Americans excelled in bombing German cities together with the British and Canadians. Then the starving of German POWS along the Rhine river, of course plenty of rapes and massive looting as well. A few years ago I met an old Canadian veteran who quite unashamedly told me, he sometimes could hardly walk after all the effing he did when invading Holland! I forgot to ask, "did the women throw themselves at you or...?"

After September 11, 2001 the army found that an unusually high number of junior officers were leaving the army. When these officers were asked why, one reason that kept coming up was a loss of trust in their commanders and the belief that junior officers could not rely on honest answers from their bosses, who were often more concerned about the opinion of the media or politicians back home.

Or the American war crimes in Japan, another humongous American crime against humanity. And another big lie committed to get into the war!!

https://www.darkmoon.me/2015/the-untold-story-of-american-war-crimes-in-japan-part-1/

No, not with the American soldiers, but the leaders are definitely corrupt and lie the blue from the sky!
Excerpt:
...after September 11, 2001 the army found that an unusually high number of junior officers were leaving the army. When these officers were asked why, one reason that kept coming up was a loss of trust in their commanders and the belief that junior officers could not rely on honest answers from their bosses, who were often more concerned about the opinion of the media or politicians back home.

https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htlead/20150330.aspx

Got to go!

 

The American military never came remotely close at anytime in history to what the Russians did to German women and girls in 1945, or what the Japanese did to Korean and Chinese women and girls in WW II. We’re talking the rape and murder of little girls.

But if one American soldier goes rogue, the world is on us like flies on sh-t.

 

Fat Leonard trials were about corruption of our naval commander who were paying Fat Leonard for services and fuel not used by them in exchange for hookers booze and concert tickets and cash.Court martials.

 

Not really. Given the source material and OP it was weird from the start.

 

I guess, today’s positive economic views made for a slow day and you decided to publish a nothingburger in news section. Anything just to bash America.
Got to work for that paycheck from the Internet research agency.

 

Yes, and we definitely would have less suicides among the young and tender ones. I just read it has become
'A national emergency':
suicide rate spikes among young US veterans

Veterans aged 18 to 34 have higher rates of suicide than any other age group, the VA says in its National Suicide Data Report. Many vets in that age group served in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/26/suicide-rate-young-us-veterans-jumps

 

ok... nice posting... surprised, amused and impressed... all in one thread

 

The Army will pay some soldiers up to $81,000 to reenlist
Date: August 27, 2019



The U.S. Army just unveiled sweeping changes to its Selective Retention Bonus (SRB) program, offering payouts of up to $81,000 to soldiers willing to reenlist for longer periods in high-demand career fields.

Army MILPER Message 19-261 -- which goes into effect Sept. 9 -- is the sixth bonus message the service has sent out this year. It's designed to offer the biggest increases to soldiers who reenlist in specialties such as Special Forces, cyber and military intelligence for 60 months or more, Sgt. Maj. Mark Thompson, the Army's senior career counselor, told Military.com.

Read more here:
https://www.military.com/daily-news...s-out-new-reenlistment-bonus-worth-81000.html
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Does that sound like the Big Brass is running out of canon fodder??
16 000 per year extra is not bad, but 5 years is a long time and much can happen in a danger zone.

 

And 75 years ago we invaded the beaches of Normandy and Iwo Jima.

Thats a pretty bold statement coming from the safety of a computer keyboard. Have you ever put boots on foreign soil in a war torn nation where tens of thousands if not millions have been exterminated due to genocide? Have you ever smelled the stench from a 5 day old rotting corpse of a beheaded child?

 

I think America has won many wars in the 21st Century, and we can all be glad for that.
America has won the war to stop China invading Taiwan.
America has won the war to stop Imperial China taking over SE Asia, and with any luck, might just end the fake Chinese islands too.
America has won the war to stop Iran going nuclear. Iran WILL get the bomb, but America will slow it down.
America has won the war to reign in Israel from taking out, once and for all, its troublesome neighbors.
America has won the war to keep shipping lanes open in the Pacific and Asia.
America has won the war to stop traditional Asian enemies attacking each other, and through trade, increasing the prosperity for all Asians.
America has won the war to stop Russian encroaching on more of the Ukraine, the Baltics and other hapless neighbors of this bully.
America has won the war to stop Iraq using chemical weapons and invading its neighbors.
etc.
etc.
etc
etc

 

Invaded Vietnam? America supported the govt of Sth Vietnam when it became clear that "unification"
with Nth Viet would be under Communism.
I understand that America signed a treat with Hanoi that both parties should leave Sth Viet - and then
Nth Vietnam invaded Sth Vietnam through Cambodia - a nation that was part of Hanoi's IndoChina
empire.
Those that supported Hanoi during the war also, we have to assume, also supported what Mao's
Communist govt and the Soviet Union, did to their people - as both these nations were the real foe
America was fighting.

And its clear what sort of regimes YOU support.

 

I highly recommend Special Forces. Not only the $16k extra per year but the hazard pay and advancement opportunities are nearly endless.

You take about the same risk living in Baltimore, Chicago, LA or St Louis.