Is Trump doing exactly what Putin wants him to do?

No. I am suspicious of everything government does. What he says to Putin isn't important to me.

Our difference is that I wouldn't define many of those lies as lies.





That says it all. Most of Trump's fans feel the same way.[/QUOTE]

 

Free cell phones.

 

Just not free cell phones but Obama's smart phones.

Just about every homeless person you see in California has a free Obama smartphone (Android)

I'm betting the California legislature will be issuing free Obama i-phones in the near future.

 

No. What we know is that Putin interfered in the election. There is absolutely no evidence that Trump asked Putin to do so or that he conspired with Russia. The report that came out from Mueller, the man who ran an investigation for over two years to find out if it was the case or not, came out and said it didn't happen. Also, I looked at your examples. All of them, from what I looked at, are all he said she said or are not definite evidence that he conspired with Russia. I honestly think that people like you who do think he conspired with Russia, are so blinded by your hatred for this man, that your allowing your own biases to blind you.

 

That doesn't surprise me. Knowing he created the problem, Trump is afraid to respond to Iran in any meaningful way.

To be quite frank, I have no idea how our country can get out this mess Trump caused.

 

What mess. I keep hearing people say this. But, I fail to find the mess. Honestly, I think people who say that Trump has ruined the U.S. view it from a globalist point of view. Trump, now you can disagree with this if you want, whole foreign policy is predicated on the idea that the United States of America is a sovereign nation and that we have no obligation to anyone other than the "citizens" that live here. I put quotes under citizens because illegal immigrants, at least as far as I view it, are not citizens.

 

Free phones (in whatever form) began under Reagan

 

"Russia if you are listening..."

Remember that?

 

Ok, so what. I watched that rally. I viewed that as him simply playing to the audience. Frankly, that is simply conjecture. There is no hard evidence that he has done so. So next time you want to give me evidence, give me some hard Deductive evidence that can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he has done so. All the evidence anyone can give me, at least so far that I have seen, is all inductive or simply conjecture.

 

That true, landline telephones for the poor to have in their home to be able to dial 911 in an emergency.




Reagan's Life Line Telephone

 

You jump into the middle of a conversation, have no idea what has been discussed, then say, "What mess?" Did you read the OP? Did you read about any of the issues in this discussion? You didn't mention any.

Your self-serving nationalist point of view was shared by a number of leaders during the 20th Century. Nationalism caused WWI and WWII, the worst war in the history of mankind. Besides you, Trump also believes in nationalism, MAGA, and to hell with everyone else. Putin endorses Trump's nationalistic views. They will isolate America.

 

Don't let them sidetrack you. Who gives a shyt?

Trumpets. They don't want to talk about Trump's friendship with Putin.

 

View it any way you want...but RUSSIA viewed it as instructions. Within hours they tried to hack into Clinton's server for the first time.

Your "take" on it means nothing

 

Putting America 1st does not isolate. It is the same as respecting oneself. Respecting oneself actually attracts respect. It wins the right kind of friends.

 

He has pressured a foreign leader to interfere in the 2020 American presidential election.

He urged a foreign country to intervene in the 2016 presidential election.

He divulged classified information to foreign officials.

He publicly undermined American intelligence agents while standing next to a hostile foreign autocrat.

He genuflects to murderous dictators.

He has alienated America’s closest allies.

He lied to the American people about his company’s business dealings in Russia.

He tells new lies virtually every week — about the economy, voter fraud, even the weather.

He spends hours on end watching television and days on end staying at resorts.

He often declines to read briefing books or perform other basic functions of a president’s job.

He has repeatedly denigrated a deceased United States senator who was a war hero.

He described white supremacists as “some very fine people.”

He launched his political career by falsely claiming that the first black president was not really American.

He launched his presidential campaign by describing Mexicans as “rapists.”

He has described women, variously, as “a dog,” “a pig” and “horseface,” as well as “bleeding badly from a facelift” and having “blood coming out of her wherever.”

He has been accused of sexual assault or misconduct by multiple women.

He obstructed justice by trying to influence an investigation into his presidential campaign.

He violated federal law by directing his lawyer to pay $280,000 in hush money to cover up two apparent extramarital affairs.

He has refused to release his tax returns.

He has suggested that America is no different from or better than Vladimir Putin’s Russia.

He has called America a “hellhole.”

He is the president of the United States, and he is a threat to virtually everything that the United States should stand for.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/22/opinion/trump-ukraine-whistle-blower.html

 

Face it folks.

We have a criminal in the White House...in fact it's infested

 

Of course, every American should put America first. However, putting America first and nationalism are complete opposites.

Nationalism isolates a nation. Nazi Germany didn't have any friends, neither did Imperial Japan. Isolation weakens a nation, and we saw the complete devastation of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan when they embarked on nationalistic idealism.

Putting America first means working with other nations to strengthen ourselves with alliances and trading agreements. In other word, putting America first "wins the right kind of friends."

 

So, according to you, it was a joke. Maybe, but at the time it was the worst possible joke he could tell. It certainly wasn't funny. No doubt many in the audience gasped. If it was a joke, the telling says a great deal about his intelligence, or lack thereof.

Asking Russia to help him with his campaign was "playing to the audience?" Wow! Are you related to Trump in any way?

 

Russia certainly took it seriously

 

Ok, insult me all you want. You still have not even given me a shred of concrete evidence to suggest that he colluded with Russia. Also, the fact that all you can do is use an ad hominem fallacy on me proves to me just how little you have thought about this subject and how little you actually care about the truth.

 

Ok, whether or not the Russians took it as instructions or not, the fact of the matter is there is no evidence that he for sure deliberately intended to commit a malicious action. Also that is incorrect about the Russians hacking Hillary right after that. Hillary was hacked previously and her emails released on wikileaks prior to Trump making that statement. Please get your information correct, because you clearly don't know what your talking about.

 

Does the opposition put America 1st?

 

Last time I checked Nationalism, just by itself is not a bad thing. It's when people take it to an extreme like in WWII, where it becomes bad. What I find so incredibly funny about people like you is you throw out all these ideas like you know what your talking about but clearly you don't. There is nothing wrong with a nation state putting the interests of it's citizens first. That is in fact, the whole point of nation state. What is not ok is putting everyone else's interest above the people the American government is supposed to serve, it's own. So I find it incredibly funny how people like you claim to think they know what they are talking about, when in reality all they have is ad hom fallacies and poor historical arguments to back themselves up. I agree that nationalism taken to an extreme is bad, but nationalism in of itself is not bad. Also, to suggest that WWI and WWII were mainly caused by extreme nationalism is a gross oversimplification. It was one of the causes but not the main cause.

 

no they don't, in fact I would argue the democrats put everyone else first, and the American citizens second. Which is why I don't vote for them. That is not the only reason. It is also the case that my political philosophy and views there after are more in line with the republican party. I don't agree with everything the republican party thinks, however I generally agree with most of it.

 

So, you think being related to Trump is an insult. Well, okay.

I have never said Trump conspired with Russia. I said Trump was doing what Putin wants him to do, and I prove that nearly every day. The interesting thing is, you do not question that proof.

Instead, you focus all your attention on me.