Is Trump doing exactly what Putin wants him to do?

Is Trump doing exactly what Putin wants him to do? That is a very good question considering the fact that the White House has been shackled during the 2 1/2 years Trump has sat in the Oval Office. Despite his party having control of both the House and Senate for the first two years of his Presidency, Trump has accomplished little or nothing.

He is the least popular President in modern American history, his staff has an historical turnover rate and is now filled with sycophants, and there are even questions about his mental stability.

Trump's close ties with Netanyahu while unilaterally proclaiming Jerusalem the capital of Israel has removed the U.S. from Middle East talks because the Arab republics do not trust him. Neither do Great Britain or France because Trump is unpredictable and unreliable. The U.S. has been replaced by Russia.

Trump removed the U.S. from the Paris Accord to which there are 197 signatories. Under Trump, the U.S. joins with the major emitters led by Russia.

Because it was signed during the Obama administration, Trump removed the U.S. from the JCPOA which permanently barred Iran from making a nuke. He has been urging the Iranian leaders to agree to talks for a new agreement that permanently bars Iran from making a nuke. In the meantime, Iran has followed Trump's example and is in violation of the JCPOA. Our allies are trying desperately to save the agreement. Trump is opposing our allies' intentions.

Trump has removed the U.S. from lucrative trade agreements, TPP, NAFTA, and has not signed one major trade agreement in 2 1/2 years.

Much to Putin's delight, Trump has weakened NATO with his constant jabs at our NATO partners. The recent G-7 conference went nearly as bad as last year's G-7 conference and there was no common statement of cooperation.

Trump has threaten the vibrant American economy. Because of his trade war with China, even he is concerned about a possible recession as consumer confidence is dropping along with the manufacturing index. Trump's harsh tariffs cause inflation, and inflation causes recession. To illustrate all of this, the stock market has been treading water since January 2018. On Jan. 29, 2018, the Dow stood at 26,439. Right now the Dow is at 26,798. It has been below Jan. 2018 figure for most of August due to Trump's tweets.

Questions about Trump's mental acuity have surfaced recently. Using a five day old NWS in predicting Dorian's path Trump declared that Alabama "will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated." Everyone not named Trump knew Dorian was going to turn north, missing Alabama by hundreds of miles. For a solid week Trump insisted that his faulty weather forecast was accurate.

When that died out, Trump admitted he had cancelled a Sunday meeting at Camp David with terrorist sponsors of the 9/11 hijackers.

Is Trump doing exactly what Putin wants him to do? Sure, a Russian agent couldn't do any better.

 

Do not blame me for your lack of education of the political spectrum.

 

You failed to tie a single thing to the Russians, but then you do not have to make delusions rational now do you ?

Perhaps you should see a mental health professional and tell them that you honestly believe everything that happens is a Russian plot and see if they can help you....

 

I finally have found time for this.

The polls got it right. "National polls measure the popular vote. Clinton did, in fact, win the national popular vote by 2.1 points. The average of the 13 final national polls had Clinton ahead by 3.1 points, which was only a point off the actual result." https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-b...last-look-2016-polls-actually-got-a-lot-right

You are a Trumpet. That figures. Screw our allies, right?

Figures, global warming is a Chinese hoax, right?

The agreement was working perfectly. Why else remove the U.S.? Trump set out to destroy everything Obama did from the JCPOA to health care to The Dreamers. That's proof enough.

The president [YOU] may have been referring to "Termination Day" in October 2025, when provisions of a U.N. resolution endorsing the deal expire, or he may have been referring to the fact that some provisions of the JCPOA itself expire 10 years into the deal, also in 2025.

As a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty, Iran has pledged not to develop nuclear weapons — ever. In agreeing to the JCPOA, Iran recommitted itself to the Non-Proliferation Treaty. The NPT is of indefinite duration and serves as the underpinning for the entire global nonproliferation regime.

Iran also has agreed to abide by the International Atomic Energy Agency's Additional Protocol. It has committed to ratify this agreement in 2023. The IAEA already has the ability to investigate nuclear facilities and activities disclosed by Iran's government. The Additional Protocol supplements those powers by giving IAEA investigators the "ability to investigate undeclared nuclear facilities and activities by increasing the IAEA's authority to inspect certain nuclear-related facilities and demand information from member states," according to a 2017 report by the Congressional Research Service. Simply put, Iran had agreed to give international inspectors wide-ranging authority to peer into its nuclear activities.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-fact-check-trump-iran-deal-20180508-story.html

Trump effectively destroyed it, and we are living through the consequences. A war with Iran would be disastrous.

Trump inherited a booming economy, the most successful economy the world has ever known, and we have full employment. The TPP and NAFTA played a part of that.

"Lucrative for who exactly? It was hurting the US" That comment is very strange. I bet you voted for Trump.

Trump used a five day old NWS map to predict the weather. Yeah, five days earlier it was accurate. Did you vote for Trump?

What kind of a President invites the terrorist sponsors of the 9/11 hijackers to Camp David? On top of that, they were going to meet a few days before the 9/11 anniversary. I will answer the question. The kind of President whose mental acuity is in serious question.

But, you think inviting the Taliban to Camp David was rational. Yeah, you voted for Trump.

 

The title of the thread and first sentence of the post reads, "Is Trump doing exactly what Putin wants him to do?" Then I proved it.

You didn't question any of that proof.

 

The only proof is in your own head. You really should seek professional help... seriously.

 

If this week was next week last week, will Trump, Putin and Kim get together for tea and crumpets?

Yep, just like the questions in most of the threads like this.

 

How about this one?

You need a sense of humor. You can't be taking this thread seriously?

 

Should have found more time.

CNN et al used those polls to predict a Hillary win by a 98% margin. Yet she only got 2% more of the popular vote. As I said before, with a 98% chance based on the polls she should have won by a far larger margin.

There is a time for everything. Just because they are our allies does not mean that we have to listen to them or care what they think 100% of the time. Or even 90%, or 80%. Like it or not various countries are going to disagree with each other regardless if they are the best of friends or the worst of enemies.

Actually I do believe in anthropogenic warming. One would have to be a fool to think that 7+ billion people are not having some kind of effect on nature. I just don't think that we should be risking our individual freedoms and our economy with drastic changes.

Yeah, the agreement was working perfectly for Iran. They get to continue working in secret while sanctions are lifted so that they can recover economically. I'm sure the leaders appreciated Obama on that one.

Even your own link shows that everything would be lifted. And their "agreement". on "committing" to the NPT...they had already agreed to it decades ago. Look how that turned out.

No, it wasn't booming. It wasn't the worst ever. But it certainly was not "booming".

Trump wants to renegotiate NAFTA — here's what you need to know[/quote]

You don't have to take my word for it. There are lots of studies out there if you care to educate yourself on it.

So, you admit that it was accurate and yet you still say he was lying...hmmm....

The kind that wants to actually work on peace instead of just mouth the words like so many other Presidents and politicians.

I do find it interesting that instead of trying to debate intellectually you mostly throw out what, to you, is an epitaph. Yes, I support Trump. Yes, I voted for Trump. And no doubt because of this you believe that I can't think critically. Yet you have yet to present an actual argument. All you've been good at is making accusations.

 

Sorry but Trump routinely trashes our allies....and praises our adversaries.

Putin smiles

 

The ad hominem attack is pathetic and typically Trumpian.

 

So far, you have not said anything of consequence, but that is okay. Your idea of contributing to a discussion is to crack jokes.

Of course, that is all you can do.

 

Prove it.

I provided a source that showed the national polls were correct. Now you do the same.

Pure Trumpian.

You just don't want to work with 200 nations to do anything about it. That is nonsense.

That is not true. Even Trump had to admit Iran was in compliance with the agreement. His issue was missiles and terrorism, which were not a part of the agreement. It was nuclear agreement. Trump never got that straight.

You did not read the source provided or your comprehension was woeful.

How did that turn out? Iran is not making a nuke. She still isn't, but she is a lot closer to making a nuke now because Trump removed the U.S. from the agreement 17 months ago. Since then, Iran has become aggressive, seizing ships, attacking oil refineries, and shooting down a very expensive American aircraft.

You think Trump pulling out of the JCPOA was smart. That is nonsense.

Our economy is not booming? Ask Trump what he thinks about our great economy. What you said is nonsense.

You voted for Trump, right?

 

Sorry, it was 91%. I got it confused with Huff Post who did the 98% prediction. Still, my point stands. This link does show that they were using polling data though. Political Prediction Market: Clinton's odds rise again

Think so? Then I guess Obama was a Trumpian? Obama: Reaching Out to Adversaries, Alienating Allies Sometimes friends are wrong. That's just a fact of life. It comes with being human beings.

Not that way no. There are plenty of ways that we could go about doing what needs to be done. What is debatable is which ways should we take? Working with other countries is great...so long as its all equitable and fair. the PA was not.

Yes, they were, at the time "compliant". Did you honestly believe that they would stay that way? They were compliant because the whole thing was just being started. Even a child knows to not do bad things until later on after an agreement and the parents eyes are not on you as much. Considering how often Iran has lied regarding its nuclear goals and its support of terrorist organizations one would have to be a fool to believe that they would stay in compliance.

Yes yes, I'm sure that Iran is and has been making military grade nuclear material simply for electricity. :rollseyes: .

You're welcome to your own opinion.

It is now. It wasn't under Obama. Oh wait...you are one of those that refuse to give Trump any credit for our current economy aren't you?

Already answered. Perhaps if you read my whole post instead of cherry picking you'd know that.

 

Congratulations, you proved it. CNN was horribly wrong.

My point -- and a far more important it is -- is that the national polls were accurate. They were off by one percent.

 

And as I said, if those polls had been accurate then she should have won by 90%-98%. Instead they were at least ‭42.5‬% wrong. Far more than 1%.

 

I have to admit that's true, sometimes. I'm laughing now as I type this reply. Sorry. lol

Edit: I mean look at my avatar. If you can't laugh at that, you don't have a sense of humor.

 

Despite all that is happening, you support Trump's decision to pull out of the JCPOA because Iran may go nuclear sometime in the future!

That is ridiculous logic. She sure has now, thanks to Trump.

She is now, thanks to Trump. I'm beginning to wonder which side you are on. Is it Putin's? We know he is pleased with Trump's decision and the results we are seeing today. Along with all the events unpleasing to Americans, there is total chaos in the Trump government. Trump is saying one thing. His advisors and Senate friends are saying something else.

And you are siding with Trump ... along with Putin.

The opinion is based on facts.

Where?

 

Trump has hollowed out the State department

He has left Ambassadorships vacant

Our allies (and adversaries) don't know who to talk to and when they try they end up talking to flunkies who know nothing

Trump has hollowed out Federal science agencies like the CDC and NOA etc.

The damage from losing people with decades of knowledge and experience will be hard to undo

Putin smiles

 

There is no "may" about it.

If you say so.

Like I already said: Perhaps if you read my whole post instead of cherry picking you'd know that.

 

In other words, you didn't answer the question.

I have read your entire posts. I find your support of Trump fascinating and expected.

 

Since Trump fired his NSA, John Bolton, SecState Mike Pompeo's influence in foreign policy has been growing by leaps and bounds. Trump's brand new NSA, Robert O'Brien, is just another yes-man, hired because he complimented Trump on several occasions.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Wednesday acknowledged that the current crisis with Iran was a "direct result" of actions taken by President Donald Trump.

Since Trump withdrew the US from the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran, his administration has engaged in a "maximum-pressure" campaign against Tehran, Iran's capital, in an effort to cripple the Iranian economy with harsh sanctions.

But so far, Trump's hard-line strategy has not been successful, and there's little evidence this is changing.

Pompeo defended this approach to reporters traveling with him to Saudi Arabia, saying, "There is this theme that some suggest that the president's strategy that we allowed isn't working. I would argue just the converse of that. I would argue that what you are seeing here is a direct result of us reversing the enormous failure of the JCPOA."

https://www.businessinsider.com/pompeo-inadvertently-admits-iran-crisis-is-trump-fault-2019-9

No one has ever said that Pompeo was the brightest bulb in the room.

Putin couldn't be more pleased. The sycophant, Pompeo, has been Trump's favorite, and Pompeo just admitted that all that has happened is a "direct result" of Trump's decision to pull out of the JCPOA. Putin endorsed that decision, thinking it was a great idea.

 

Perhaps this is why you are such a Trump hater. You fail to read everything provided to you completely. Context is important. Context provides background information and puts everything into perspective. If you had such a hard time seeing something that was clearly and unequivocally stated perhaps you need to work on that and start taking in the whole picture instead of just that which you only wish to see? I'm not trying to be an ass here. I'm truly trying to help. If you missed this then perhaps you need to look inward and consider that you are missing far more which very well may change your outlook on things?

As my quote above shows, yes, I am a Trump supporter I have no problem criticizing him when I believe it is warranted. For example I fully believe that he's a braggart with an ego the size of the entire world and more often than not states things incorrectly. Considering where he grew up, how he grew up, and his life style it doesn't really surprise me that he's the way he is. But I also have no reason to believe that he is in Putins pocket. That scenario went out the window the moment Mueller's report came out. The only reason in my mind that the left continues with that is because they believe that it is gaining them votes.

In reality the majority of Americans are sick and tired of this whole thing and wants Congress and Dems to put it behind them and work on actual solutions to the countries problems. Including making new laws shoring up our voting system, which despite and contrary to the belief of many leftists is not Trumps job. It's actually Congresses job to make laws. Not Trumps. We need real border and immigration solutions designed to help the US. We need better trade deals that puts Americans First. While I love the idea behind globalism, including a one world government, I recognize that we as a human species are not there and will not be there for hundreds of years yet. We're all too selfish and greedy. Education reform is needed (and no, I don't just mean throwing more money at it, that is clearly not working). Justice system reform is needed to change it from strictly punishment to one of punishment AND rehabilitation. And we NEED to stop with this identitarian BS that the left has going on. That more than anything Trump has done is tearing this country apart. And don't tell me that that is Trumps fault. The left has been doing the identarian thing for well over a decade now so tracing it to Trump is nothing more than a partisan talking point designed to lay all the troubles of this country at Trumps feet. The term "racist" has lost all meaning to everyone besides leftist identarian's. Most hear the word, roll their eyes and then get back to doing whatever it is they were doing before hearing the word. Same with "Nazi's" etc etc. And no, that is not saying that such people do not exist. It's saying that its being used against anyone that disagrees with them regardless of anything else. Hell, remember that one black dude that was told that he had white privilege over the air in an interview? It's an automatic thing to call anyone that disagrees some sort of "ism" or "phobe" or whatever....that's how prevalent it is. It needs to stop and only be used for ACTUAL racists, Nazi's etc etc.​

 

You don't want to deal with actual issues. True, I missed that post because it was just a personal attack against me. I don't pay attention to that drivel. My concentration is on events.

You are doing your level best to avoid events because they make Trump look careless and incompetent.

Trump forced Iran into a corner and Iran has struck back.

Signed during the Obama administration, the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear bomb. In May 2018, Trump removed the U.S. from the JCPOA and reimposed the harsh sanctions that stuck a dagger into the heart of the Iranian economy. Iran’s economy came under unprecedented pressure thanks to the reimposed sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019.

Iran has bombed and seized oil tankers. While technically a member of the JCPOA, she has resumed her nuclear research in earnest. She has exceeded the amount of processed uranium. She has exceeded the level of uranium enrichment. She has shot down a very expensive American aircraft that was spying on Iranian military bases.

All of this came as a result of Trump's regretful decision in May 2018.

And now this, the destruction of the world's largest oil refinery.

Politico reports, "Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif threatened that an “all-out war” would result from a military strike on Iran by the United States or Saudi Arabia in response to last weekend’s attacks on Saudi oil facilities.

“I make a very serious statement about defending our country. I’m making a very serious statement that we don’t want war,” Zarif said on Thursday.

"We don’t want to engage in a military confrontation,” he continued. “We believe that a military confrontation based on deception is awful, will have a lot of casualties. But we won’t blink to defend our territory."

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said there was "enormous consensus" that Iran was responsible for the middle-of-the-night missile and drone attacks last weekend that at least temporarily knocked out half of the Saudis' oil production, nearly 6% of the global oil supply.

"We are still striving to build out a coalition in an act of diplomacy while the foreign minister of Iran is threatening all-out war and to fight to the last American, we're here to build up a coalition aimed at achieving peace," Pompeo said.

"We'd like a peaceful resolution," he said. "I hope the Islamic Republic of Iran sees it the same way."

Just days after declaring the United States was “locked and loaded” in response to a suspected Iranian attack on key Saudi Arabian oil facilities, U.S. President Donald Trump on Wednesday said that he directed the Treasury Department to “substantially increase” sanctions on Iran.

Foreign Policy writes, "That raises several questions: What is left to sanction? How much more could it hurt Iran than losing almost all of its oil exports?"

Good Lord, what a mess. Thank you, Mr. President.

 

That is hardly the main problem with him and you know it. You are avoiding the issues surrounding him. Here is another one.

Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson fielded the complaint on Aug. 12. Dan Coats' termination as DNI occurred on Aug. 15.

Atkinson submitted it to acting director of national intelligence Joseph Maguire two weeks later. By law, Maguire is required to transmit such complaints to Congress within seven days. But in this case, he refrained from doing so after turning for legal guidance to officials at the Justice Department.

The Washington Post writes, "The whistleblower complaint that has triggered a tense showdown between the U.S. intelligence community and Congress involves President Trump’s communications with a foreign leader, according to two former U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

"Trump’s interaction with the foreign leader included a “promise” that was regarded as so troubling that it prompted an official in the U.S. intelligence community to file a formal whistleblower complaint with the inspector general for the intelligence community, said the former officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

"It was not immediately clear which foreign leader Trump was speaking with or what he pledged to deliver, but his direct involvement in the matter has not been previously disclosed. It raises new questions about the president’s handling of sensitive information."

Trump tweeted his innocence, but he didn't tell us what he is accused of.

That hardly matters. The Trump White House is breaking the law ... again, and, once again, we are left to wonder. What is Trump hiding from the American people now?

Who is the foreign leader? Based on Trump's background and his friendships after he became President, an educated guess is that it is one three communist dictators, Kim Jong Un of North Korea, Xi Jinping of China, and, of course, Vladimir Putin of Russia.