Will Trump be impeached or not?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by I justsayin, Sep 27, 2019.

  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    How will he benefit me? By taking away my Medicare and Social Security? For make NO mistake, that is the very next thing on the Republican agenda if Trump is re-elected.
     
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  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    So??
     
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    No even if they do, the senate will not hold a hearing as it should be. The dems are doing this for partisan BS. Al Green even admitted if we don't "impeach" him Trump will be reelected.
     
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    Decepticons???? How apt. That's my new name for the Democrat Party. Nice analogy.
     
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    The military aid that was mentioned had zero connection or relation with the Biden discussion. He was temporarily withholding military aid as a pressure on the EU to live up to the treaty with Ukraine. Trump never even hinted that the aid might not be forthcoming eventually, and the president of Ukraine never expressed any such concern. The exact opposite of Biden whose offer was an explicit quid pro quo.
     
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    You have actual EVIDENCE of this claim? From an unbiased source?
     
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    Yes, by the way Texans need to get rid of democrats in that state.
     
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    "Neither Biden or his son had control of 250 millions in money for weapons the Ukrainians need for their survival. "

    Was Biden involved in the deal? Was his son doing business in the country?

    That alone should've warranted recusal

    "Trump was interfering in the politics of a foreign country"

    Would dictating who was a country's prosecutor count as interfering in their politics ?

    "Trump isn't openly defying and opposing the Congress? And violating the law in doing so? "

    ^^ that's a standard talking point that's said about the opposition regularly so it doesn't tussle my Jimmy's

    Fear mongering my butt, what does a President have to DO to scare Trumpers?

    Not accept election results , gas the opposition and murder journalists. Everything else is just standard partisan talking points repeated for almost every administration
     
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    Biden would have the strong argument that he was acting in the nation's interest, not his personal interest. That won't work for Trump. His lawyer already stated on national television that the pressure to investigate was for Trump's own personal interest.
     
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  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Then nobody's relatives should be able to do business in a country they have relatives in the government of

    Biden didn't dictate who should be prosecutor, he became one of many who were saying that prosecutor should be fired for corruption. Should all my relatives be discharged from the Civil Service because I'm against Trump?

    No it's not, I have not yet heard of any President instructing his people to ignore subpoenas from Congress, nor telling people they can ignore eminent domain laws as Trump has been doing with his wall.

    Trump would not say that he would accept the 2016 election if he lost.

    We don't know that he played any part but it strains credulity that the evil Prince would have gone ahead with his plan to murder Khasoggi had he not had some sort of assurance the the US would not impose strong sanctions, and Jared was in the country at the time. One characteristic of Putin's methods is that he murders journalists out of the country, Trump may be planning to go this one better and do it by proxy.

    A slogan of Trump's whole campaign was to "Lock her up" meaning Hillary if he won, and the fact that Trump has been as utterly unable to do so after he won as before has not deterred him or his acolytes from STILL trying to on charges even more false than of those brought by Russian courts against your standard "revisionist", seeing as no revisionist I ever heard of had been investigated and cleared by the Politburo three times.

    And in any case, once those things happen it's too late. Any politician who even hints at doing those things should be voted out of office at the next election, if he cannot be impeached sooner.
     
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  11. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is a strange statement you made, Of course I'd love anybody that agreed with me. My wife doesn't even do that! What's the point?
     
  12. TurnerAshby

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    Bidens case is a textbook example of recusal
     
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    I am happy with an biased judge
    Are you
     
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    Trump has filled the swamp with Lobbyist and Carpetbaggers

    Over 350 individuals who’ve worked as lobbyists who currently work in the administration, have worked in it or have been nominated to serve in Trump’s administration. Cumulatively, they’ve represented more than 2,800 companies at one point or another, according to lobbying registration documents. Nearly 200 of them now served or have been nominated to serve in divisions of government that they once lobbied.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The definition of a Judge is to abide by law....not to be biased.
     
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    What is wrong with that? If you want any level of expertise in the federal government then it is inevitable you have to have people working in it that have done business with the federal government in the past.
     
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    Yes. Trump has betrayed his office and the country. He will be impeached.

    I also believe the case against him will be solid enough that 2/3 of the senate will support removal. He will prolly resign.
     
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    It probably would have been wise to step back, but it isn't like there was any evidence his son was being investigated and it isn't like the rest of the West wasn't calling for this guy to get the boot. But your complete avoidance of Trump is what is really telling here. Ever going to address that?
     
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    I wish I shared that optimism. Even if we get to 2/3 support in the Senate, Trump has too much of an ego to resign. The only thing that would get him to resign would MAYBE be to avoid the shame of being the first US President forceably removed from office. Even then, he's made a career of conspiracy theories before and his primary mode of communication is the victim narrative. He may get off on it
     
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    There will prolly be a deal (the greatest deal ever): President Pence will pardon him of all federal crimes if he resigns.
     
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    Wow ............... What a Divisive statement from the Radical Right !
     
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    Texans getting rid of the Dems in Texas? LOL. Not divisive, hilarious.
     
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    Ah, yes. That's also a decent scenario, providing Republicans start standing up to Trump.
     
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    Great, so we agree
     
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    Honestly, if the Dems make the case who can stand with a traitor?
     

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