Pentagon will send more than 50 F-35s to Europe to deter Russia

Hard to say but this photo shows Russian mobil CBM's waiting in a long gas line at a Moscow service station.

 

To deter russia from doing what? Pulling another hitler move?

Hell china is a much greater future threat given they have enough of an economy to pull a hitler.

Russia doesn't have the economy to finance what the nuts fear

Nuclear blackmail does not work given the fact of MAD .

You gotta be a dupe to think Russia is a threat to europe. But the dupes help to enrich the industrial and national security, congressional complex.

It reminds me of orwell's novel 1984.

 

Glad they have fixed some of the problems with flying in the rain .. can it fly at night yet ? And as for those C and B models that can't go supersonic without ruining the stealth coating .. what do we do with them ... to the trash ?

The "new tech" there will be issues is a joke of a response. They have been sorting out issues with this plane for 9 years now ... and a large number of issues still remain ...

F-35 stealth fighter is still struggling with a string of big problems even as the Pentagon talks about ramping up production
https://www.businessinsider.com/f-35-still-struggling-with-more-than-dozen-big-problems-2019-6

Note that the above article is from June 2019.

Bombshell report finds some F35 fighter jets will only fly for a QUARTER of their expected life because of 'major structural issues
Pentagon test report says plane will fly for just 2,100 flight hours, 'well under' the expected service life of 8,000 hours
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...-QUARTER-expected-life-structural-issues.html

Can you say "Lemon" ?

 

I did not say the Russians were a new threat .. stop being obtuse.

There was no "run-in" with the Russian army at Deir el-Zour. Some private contractor had some Russian Mercs in the area.

I have 2 threads supporting Trumps decision to pull out

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ght-over-this-long-blood-stained-sand.563336/
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...est-kurd-debacle-smelling-like-a-rose.562948/

 

You need to dig deeper..

Red flag. Is the best air combat exercise on the planet.

You are right the f 35 was not designed to dogfight. Then why compare it's dogfighting ability to other planes????

Fact is. The f 35 kills it's adversaries before they even know they are being attacked.

Of course that has been the number 1 fighter pilot strategy since day 1.


All of the sources for the allegedly hit on the Israeli f 35 are from Russia.

The plane was damaged 2 weeks earlier from a bird strike. It wasn't hit my a commie missile.


Any way you slice it. The f 35 is probably the deadliest fighter aircraft in the world today AND. It is also the most survivable.

It can fly anywhere in the world with at or extremely close to impunity.

 

Not correct. A German company built a passive radar system, it fits into a large SUV. They were able to track the plane when it left a air show in Germany. The F35 did not dare to fly at that air show, because the German company had several of its vehicles at the show.
They rented a farm, put their system in place and than waited for the F35s to leave the air port were the show took place
They hit maga pay dirt.

 

Bingo

Alex Jones was correct when he names his show "InfoWars"

What we have now are the two sides, constantly building their narrative in the hope of driving the polls in their direction. I personally feel that the polls are all full of it, but that's a whole 'nother conversation.

But yeah, this is just so Trump can say he is being "tough on Russia" and likely a little 'sales pitch' to anyone looking at F-35's. Isn't Poland in the market for new planes?

No chance in hell Putin does anything to Trump while he is busy dismantling the Global Deep State.

Not to mention Zelenksy and Putin have been in talks to try to end the war in Donbas and from what I can see they are making progress.

 

This is of little to no value. Longwave radars like the WW2 era Chain Home UK system can detect and track stealth aircraft, just like the German passive method - but neither can TARGET illuminate the stealth aircraft for a missile attack - that requires microwave (centimetric) radars to which stealth is invisible. Longwave radars and passive systems like the German one can only place a stealth aircraft somewhere within a 5-8 mile square box (volume cube with each side of 5-8 miles).. That is virtually worthless, as it cannot direct a missile to the stealth aircraft.

 

It tracked the planes because those two f35 had their radar transponder on like it always have when not in combat so that the air traffic controller can track them. Those transponder are also there to expressevly counter attempt at capturing their real radar signature. In short, the german tracked a false radar signature that was being broadcast by the f35 themselves!

 

Yup, more fake news.

It's hilarious, you will see these people make these claims, then you will someone like Fox or CNN make an article about

"Is America's top plane now obsolete!!!"

All just to make money .... media is straight up evil today.

 

You need to check into the passive radar, they have advanced the system so much that they feel confident to use it for traffic control, through triangulation. The more units are deployed the more accurate it becomes.
With several units one can pinpoint any air plane and use it for guidance.

 

No, they really haven't

 

Not how it works...

 

The passive radar does not use reflection. So a transponder, or no transponder has no effect on it.

 

Keep believing that.

 

They have

 

Nope.

 

Do you know how a passive radar works ?

 

Well, you have two people educated in military technology, I actually have several classes in specified electromagnetic spectrum as well, who are both disagreeing with you.

Feel free to post a source for your opinion

 

Yes, but you don't.

 

Yes, they attempt to use triangulation tracking radiation signals to pinpoint a location.

At best they come within a 4 mile block, that does absolutely nothing for you

 

Hi to you too.

 

That is certainly the dream of Lockheed Martin you have presented ... easy to find support for that one out there..in Lockheed promotional material .. and various associates....

The dream of "Stealth" ... what Spray calls "A Scam"

Think about the wording this guy is using ... and then he goes on to back up his claim.

This is not some idiot ... this is a Military Analyst who worked for the Pentagon on the F-16 and A-10 program - at a high level -

Then - after he left the Pentagon he continued to consult to them.

Leaving that aside - I studied the issue a bit - did some rigor ..and have a general understanding of the field of science - on an academic level. Not a huge amount but .. it interests me.

Spray is not the only one out there claiming that Stealth don't mean invisible.

Yet that is how it is often touted.

And here I leave it with you .. since this is your claim - in reverse.
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Explain how invisible we are .. and quantify it.
.

 

I read somewhere it can take between an hour and a day.
Fueling ICBM is a dangerous process, just like fueling a rocket that launches satellites in space. The launchpad is evacuated and the fueling is done remotely.
Oh, forgot to mention - sometimes rockets blow up during fueling process. And that’s when done by experienced professionals. How many will blow up when being fueled by inexperienced soldiers doing it in a rush?

Disclaimer - liquid fuel ICBMs require fueling. Solid fuel is ready to go. That’s why the US got rid of liquid fuel ICBMs a long time ago and brand new Russian ICBMs that Pootin boasted about are using liquid fuel.

 

It's a rort... Nato is a rort...who is paying for this... Europeans..with their less than 2% of DGP contributions, so send your f35's to make some money... but to pretend it's for their protection .. pfft