Trump Impeachment Inquiry / Vote, Senate Conviction (or acquittal) polling - polling internals

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Contest what? I hardly ever contest anything. Why would I ever wanted to contest nonsense?
     
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    Simply branding my entire post as nonsense without solid point by point proof tells us you don't have the courage or the intellect to offer valid criticism of it. Once again you're really not contesting the facts of it.

    Lol meanwhile you're admitting that because the economy is supposedly in good shape it's perfectly OK for Trump to defy are Constitution, our Democracy, the rule of law, and the Houses constitutional impeachment process. What a twisted trade off. That's why: You like the strategy of Trump claiming he's innocent while interfering with documents and witnesses requested by the House and ultimately the American People.
    Most Americans will not trade off all of our country's institutions and rules of law for a supposedly good economy. Once again ask Nixon.
    In the end you hate the same things Trump does. Civil rights for minorities, women being treated with dignity and respect, freedom of the press. freedom to be out from under a s strongman ruler like Putin, You hate the constitution that offers the rule of law and the right of the House to investigate a corrupt democracy hater like Trump/Putin.
     
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    Fake polls and fake news.....sad.
     
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    A pathological lying President out of touch with reality defying the rule of law and the House's constitutional right to investigate Presidential corruption. How dangerous.
     
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    Ffs, just...no.

    The polls in 2016 for both Brexit and the Presidential election said the outcome would most likely fall within a certain range. And guess what? Both results fell within that range of outcomes.

    And even if they did not, there is a massive difference between a poll that tries to predict the future and a poll that tries to measure current sentiment.

    The support for impeachment polls are measuring that sentiment right now, when politicians have to make decisions without the benefit of just waiting another year to see if trump can replicate his inside straight victory on backs of ~80,000 votes across three states.
     
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    Pollsters get the answers they want, regardless of whether they are predicting or measuring sentiment. These polls are intended to create sentiment, not measure.

    I would bet money Trump won the popular vote last election. Ever wonder why Hillary didn't take any legal action? Because democrat voter fraud would have been exposed. Hillary was soundly defeated. Destroyed. A complete loser.

    I think the dems will be in for a surprise if they attempt voter fraud again in this election. I think Trump has the drop on them. I can feel it in my bones.
     
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    Your bones should be examined by a medical professional.
     
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    Sorry but I won't take you up on your twisted scorched earth policy. I'm not into acts of total destruction and annihilation of everything this country stands for over something that may have taken place over thirty years. ago. You would allow Trump to tear down this country by attacking all of our institutions including the constitution and democracy. But it doesn't change things in the end you still wind up hating that same things Trump hates:
    Civil rights for minorities, women being treated with dignity and respect, freedom of the press. freedom to be out from under a s strongman ruler like Putin, You hate the constitution that offers the rule of law and the right of the House to investigate a corrupt democracy hater like strongman Putin.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Such righteous chest-beating... but

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    So I won't :hug:
     
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    Lol you still haven't defended your position and now because that position is so indefensible you use Twain as a way to get at me. You forget Twain unlike Trump recognized the evils of slavery and racism so his above statement(Never argue with stupid people) applies quite accurately to you and Trump. Twain would never side with the stupidity of racism and slavery. Jokes on you.

    "Southern society at the time considered helping a runaway slave like Jim, who was thought to be inviolable property, the worst crime you could commit short of murder. But Huck sympathized so profoundly with Jim that the boy freed him. In Twain's Notebook #35, the writer explains:"

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    Lol meanwhile you're admitting that because the economy is supposedly in good shape it's perfectly OK for Trump to defy are Constitution, our Democracy, the rule of law, and the Houses constitutional impeachment process. What a twisted trade off. That's why: You like the strategy of Trump claiming he's innocent while interfering with documents and witnesses requested by the House and ultimately the American People.
    Most Americans will not trade off all of our country's institutions and rules of law for a supposedly good economy. Once again ask Nixon.
    In the end you hate the same things Trump does. Civil rights for minorities, women being treated with dignity and respect, freedom of the press. freedom to be out from under a s strongman ruler like Putin, You hate the constitution that offers the rule of law and the right of the House to investigate a corrupt democracy hater like Trump/Putin.
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Bingo
     
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    That first statement is the statement that the losing side invariably says when it knows it is losing. Mondale said it. Dukakis said it. Bush 41 said it in 1992. Dole said it in 1996. McCain said it in 2008. Romney said it in 2012.
     
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    Maybe, but that doesn’t make it inaccurate. A poll today means very little — a ton of variables could be introduced within a year.
    If another terrorist attack happens his popular support would likely skyrocket like it did under Bush, ultimately leading to a very unpopular president being elected. If republicans get fed up with trumps antics and decide to actually listen to the evidence in his impeachment causing his removal the variables have a drastic change.
     
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    what was that?
     
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    alredy replied to this post. Sorry!
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes you have, 5 times with the same nonsense. Carry on.
     
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    Its the sound of your twisted reason to support a racist president who HATES:
    Civil rights for minorities, women being treated with dignity and respect, freedom of the press. freedom to be out from under a s strongman ruler like Putin, who hates the constitution that offers the rule of law and the right of the House to investigate a corrupt democracy hater like Trump/Putin.

    And you admit that your support for Trump is due to a single incident that may or may not have h have happened some 30 years. You're still holding to and carrying around this vengeance and hatred for 30 years

     
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    My friend,

    You can post the same crap over and over again if it gets you off. Me? I don't care :)
     
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    Lol meanwhile you keep responding to my posts which once again shows that you care alright!
    You absolutely support a racist president who HATES:
    Civil rights for minorities, women being treated with dignity and respect, freedom of the press. freedom to be out from under a s strongman ruler like Putin, who hates the constitution that offers the rule of law and the right of the House to investigate a corrupt democracy hater like Trump/Putin.

    And you admit that your support for Trump is due to a single incident that may or may not have h have happened some 30 years. You're still holding to and carrying around this vengeance and hatred for 30 years
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My friend,

    You can post the same crap over and over again if it gets you off. Me? I don't care :)
     
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    I agree to a large extent, but the the point I often make is that politicians - particularly those in the House and Senate - do not have the luxury of waiting a year to see if poll numbers will change. They have to make decisions based on the currently available evidence and that includes the most recent polling information.
     
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    BINGO. There's the rub, right there.
     
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    Considering the damage to America that Trump could cause between now & November (or January 2021), I don't agree that the election is the ONLY poll that's important.
     
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    :roflol:

    Same as or beats Obama before 2012. Can you say second term.
     
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