Berlin denies "Reagan" Statue to erected on its soil...US have to park it on their embassy

Why spit at the countries and people who helped free and then reunify your people?

I haven't asked you to fall on your knees and grovel, so stop pretending that I'm trying to subjugate or victimize you.

Well, you're wrong. Gratitude and submission are not synonymous with one another.

Mankind is corrupt, and nothing corrupts men and women more than power. That's why individuals should NEVER allow power to be concentrated in the hands of a few political elites. This is the problem that all of us in the West are confronting right now. That is why you see the arrogant and self-serving political elites in our countries spitting on the "populist" movements and "extremists" throughout the West who are attempting to reign them in. If you're wondering why the Party of Big Government in the United States and its allies in our federal bureaucracy are attempting to impeach President Trump now you know. Ukraine has nothing to do with it. Our "populist" president and his "Far Right" supporters constitute an existential threat to the nomenklatura and apparatchiks in Washington DC who have forgotten that the American people run this country and they answer to us, not the other way around.

The only solution is to assert more power and control over your own lives, which means stripping that same power and control away from the political elites in Berlin and Brussels.

 

I dont spit on countries. I dont know how express at english. But i dont like when pthers was place themself above our own people. The reunion is something East Germans can be proud for. A revolution without a single shot fired. The result of brave east german demonstrators but also of officials from the regime that did not escalate it into a blood bath.

 

He has a chip on his shoulder, we are the victims.
I can disagree with people, without insulting, because I do not have a chip on my should.
That is part of walking tall.
I dislike Trump and what he is doing, as you might know. But it does not mean I blame the US as a hole.
Presidents come and go.
I do not sit there and whine how bad everybody was after the war. Germany should not have started the war, simple as that.
If East Germans want respect, they should work for it. Respect is earned, the hard way and not by talking tough.
Till now West Germany has been the pay master, the engine behind the economy.
But they see West Germany as the bad guy.
Oh Well...….………...

 

*facepalm*

 

On my way to school, in the 60s to mid 60, I still drove by large section of completely burned out house. They had no bomb damage but fell victim to the fire storm. The inner city were rebuilt first and than it spread outwards. Naturally the rubble was cleared, the roads and tram lines rebuilt, the burned out shells secured and checked for structural integrity. It is now completely rebuilt and looks like before the war. Took till the late 60s The shells were not torn down but restored, even the apartments inside were rebuilt to their original glory. 12 feed ceilings, stucco ornaments, huge rooms and so on. Those house were built in the early 1900s. Its my most favorable area of my home town.
There is something to that earea, the houses display with colourful stucco ornament, something very solid, a lightness but strength. Bars, restaurants, shops, small parks and so on.
When ever I visit my home town, I spent at least 2 days walking those quarters, visit friends, have drink, stop at the butcher store and have a Gehacktes Broetchen and just look at the buildings. They are a display of wealth, real solid wealth.
Prestine conditions, lovingly cared for. 5 stories high, terracotta roof tiles, coper gutters and drains and it is so frisking clean.
Google Kassel and than Bebel Platz. If you follow Aschrot Strasse, from Bebel PLatz, you get to the former US military quarters.
Built after the war, for US personnel and their families stationed in Kassel.​

 

No they did not make millions.
It was a very cumbersome process to get money for damages done by the military of any nation. The damage was payed by West Germany.
I have no idea if there was any re-imbursement by the allies. But one had to file with a German office and proof what damage was done.
A inspector would come and look at the damage.
My father had a farm and had to deal with it 2 or 3 times a year. We had British Cavalry. Great guys

 

When I served in the Bundeswehr, my job had me serve with US Special Forces. Some had been in Vietnam. We trained together, did the Cowboy and Indian stuff. The guys that had been in Nam, had a edge, that animal instinct, which gets triggered from real combat.
I put a scope on one of them, 1500 m and he just vanished. Asked him later, his skin was itching.
I made live long friends.

You will find a lot of Germans that are extremely critical today of the US. Not like Sobo, but very critical, some like Sobo, for sure.
But it is the current administration. You can find it all over Europe, its not a German thing.
Trump does what Sobo does, spout. Sometimes it is better to talk in a low voice, if you have a big stick. Shouting at people/countries very seldom works, it creates a climate on confrontation and counter reaction.

 

I keep trying to recall when in Germany 62-64 that I saw any of the Bundeswehr? I was mostly based at Schweinfurt on the Main River. I think they must have been there in Germany.

Sobo is talking like a rebel with no cause. Trump annoys some of us too but not as much as Obama annoyed us.

 

I did not mean one farmer could make millions. But they still got plenty of cash. Our system when I was there in 62-64 (a long time ago) was we had a German speaking guy in our Army who talked to the residents living in Germany where we had passed through. He had the authority to look at the damage and decide the price for chickens or trees or other things we would accidental damage. The way he told me was he made up a list of victims and the damages and turned it in. Money to pay them did not come from our HQ units since I was in one and had all the paperwork. If it was paper, it came my way. This German in our Army soldier doing this did not explain who all did it or who all he had to report to. But he told me some of the fees for things like chickens killed or trees ruined. I probably was gone for a long time prior to you being in your military. Things changed as time passed. We did not have computer payroll. That all came later when I was home in the US.

 

Yes they earned a lot of money and East Germans, too. I had the daughter of a DDR upper class family, as a customer for one of my tourist trips. Her father had run the maintenance shop for a local district, department of transportation. One year later they owned it, the whole nine yards, everything and had a Ford dealership in it. That happened all over the former DDR.
The Treuhand had to deal with the extremely difficult problem East Germany had created by nationalizing industries and properties.
West German law never recognized that. People living in West Germany had legal claims, like my family.
Our property, was so run down, so f..... filthy, we just let it go and turned it over to the Treuhand, got 200 DM after it sold.
A nother property, in East Berlin, the place were my father grew up, was still a burned out ruin, worthless. Was used as a dump, by East Berliners. We payed 5000 DM to have the contamination established. It was by Western standards a super dump. The cost to have it cleaned up, was estimated at 200,000 DM. We kindly declined.
There was a farm in Thueringen, VEB, Vaters Ehemaliger Betrieb, had belonged to them family for nearly 200 years.
Same problem, contaminated. East Germany had run milk cows there, no sewage controll. The place reacted, stunk, it watered your eyes. Everything run down, buildings colapsing. The animals in horrible conditions, sick, skin problems, just disgusting. All had to be put down.
279 of them, I was there with the vets, not fun, nasty, covered with their shiit and urin.
I am a farmer, never ever seen anything like that.
We checked the soil. It was unbelievebal. Piss all the way down to 20 feet and it had a chemical cocktail, everything you could shoot up a cow with. They had sprayed that onto the fields, too.
Cost would have been around half a million to sanities the place and than take the responsebility, for any problems down the road, what you did not find.
Liability
Well besides a million to take care of the buildings, temporarely. 10 millions to get it completely rebuilt.
We kindly declined and handed it over to Treuhand, it sold for 10,000 DM.
4 families went bankrupt on that farm, because it never ended. They solved one problem, just to find out they had a nother problem.
That's the reality

Playing victim again.

 

I actually liked Obama. I think his Obama Care sucks. Big mistake, other wise I think he did rather well.

62 and 64 were just the building stages of the Bundeswehr. When I was in, 70s it was probably the army in Nato. Most professional and best equipped. The US was changing from a draft to a pro. Was in horrible shape.
I was special forces, which are all pros and I dealt only with pros, from what ever NATO country they came from. They were all extremely good and at the top of the game.
But we had to deal with regulars during excersis. The US was horrible, the British were excellent, Dutch and Belgians great.
Belgians paras, were my favored. Besides the Legion.
I did a stint with the Legion, I would not want to f.... around those boys

 

I looked Kassel up and studied Bebel Platz and it is very good looking. I got on one trip in the general area but never got to Kassel. Frankfurt of course. Check out Idar Oberstein. That is pretty too.

 

Even in West Germany in 1963, villages stunk very bad. The people kept farm animals in the village and used tractors with wagons behind them to go into the farm fields to work all day. The roads did not smell bad but when I would drive thorough some of those small towns, they smelled like dairy farms smell. Cat tle **** all over the place and the piss was probably most of the bad smell. I guess farmers got used to the smell.

When I was in Berlin, I got engaged to this young woman and her father and her told me stories about their life in East Germany. He owned a business and was the small town mayor and learned some residents were losing their homes and business to be nationalized. He decided to leave and try to get into West Berlin ahead of the authorities. They were worried they would be shot trying to get inside West Berlin. They managed since the wall was not yet finished. (we did not get married to each other)

This is Jutta. I believe she still lives in Berlin not too far from Lake Wannsee.

 

Remember where the term "bought the farm" came from? When an Air Force jet crashed into a farm, it was generally accepted that the farmer had a right to a settlement from the U.S. government sufficient to pay off his mortgage.

So the pilot "bought the farm" at the cost of his own life.

 

I had to live through the policies of Obama and hated his reforms. I did not ever get to all of the towns all over then West Germany plus East Germany.

When I was in Germany, the best kept secret was that our units had problems with things needed in war like Camouflage nets. Our vehicles were in decent condition. We trained most of the time in winter. So we would not hurt farmers fields if our tanks went into them. Also we had special training areas that we used that we took care of any damage ourselves. Special forces were scarce in Germany when I was there. A lot of them were in Vietnam helping those Vietnamese learn how to fight as an army. I saw some in the US at Ft. Benning I believe. Those were well trained soldiers. I think back on our own unit and believe in war we would have been in real trouble. The Airborne troops kept in great condition. I got to Schweinfurt and ran with our troops and I was in a lot better shape then those guys were. But I got a good job so I did not run or do exercises or even fire my rifle at all. I was very lucky that way.

 

Very interesting stuff. I learn more talking like this than about politics. A forgotten issue for most civilians is that our military operations can damage property as you talk of. But when I was in Germany, we did things there that Americans would not tolerate here in this country. We would be out with hundreds of tanks and they can do serious damage. So Germans got used to them and when damaged, got paid.

 

He must have had some bad things happen to him. Trump should be looked at for what he does and stop thinking of his tweets. He has a bad habit of hitting back in a way the Democrats hate. But They deserve it. I agree with what you said above.

I believe that today the German people are not like their grandparents were when those had to deal with Hitler. Hitler got power the way of the gun. And using terror to kill people who did not like him. Then people got very scared. And had to pretend to like Hitler. A terrible problem.

 

I have no chip on my shoulder. And i dont see west as a bad guy. I see myself as the best. Thats the problem that collides with your selfesteem. You expect an east german to be submissive and thankful.

Im not thankful. Evrything i have is because i deserve it. I dont talk tough. I simply take what i see belongs to me.

Same about my people. We see west german politics as laughable. We also see that voting AfD works, since politics get forced into the direction we want it to be. The opinion of west germans regarding that is rather seen as unimportant, as you can see. West Germans fail to understand that and thats the main problem why your solutions dont work. Before each election west german tv starts anti afd bla bla and then wonders when it doesnt work. People here simply give a **** about west germany and its opinion.

You should be proud for that. It means eastern germany reached healthy selfesteem.

 

Sobo, I want to sincerely congratulate you for the huge improvement to your English as written. Good going. My German is not good at all. I must try to improve it. At my age it is doubtful I actually need to though.

 

Most Germans loved Hitler after he conquered France with "Blitzkrieg". Even his former critics became Hitler fans. The successful Hitler was very popular with the people. But when the war came to Germany they slowly did realize what he had done.

 

I am very much aware that you are just a taker and not a maker

 

East Germany has a relatively high unemployment rate of 6.9% compared to the West (4.8%). East Germans earn less money on average for the same jobs.

https://www.dw.com/en/german-income...oncern-as-east-west-divide-deepens/a-48465438

 

I´m a genetic god. Slaves and working drones are there to make things.

 

The USA is a rare country in that when we attack, seldom if ever can the opponent attack us in the USA.

 

Don't forget 9/11 ...