Berlin denies "Reagan" Statue to erected on its soil...US have to park it on their embassy

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  1. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That might explain the blame-shifting...
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Growing pains...
     
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    Of course i would have been born. My parents married 1987.
     
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    What?
     
  5. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll spell it out for you:

    If you had family members who were collaborators it would explain why you're blaming Adenauer instead of Stalin and his East German quislings for what happened to East Germany.
     
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    Why should i blame Stalin? Foreigners are always evil and enemies. Blaming Stalin is like blaming a fox for killing chicken.

    I blame the swine adenauer who could have had reunion in early 50th.

    The 40 years division will never heal. They now say maybe in 400 or 500 years

    East Germans get no leadership jobs, earn less, no corporation HQ, no east german generals
     
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    Ungrateful Germans.
     
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    And, slept through basic Math ?
     
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    For good reasons.
     
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    Because he was responsible.
     
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    What else.
    His Grandma was a Dr. med, elite and you could only get that education and job, if you marched in the very first line.
     
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    He got with East Germany, what he wanted for all of Germany.

    Luckily West Germany stayed free.
     
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    Ill-informed, clueless 'mericans.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Americans and Soviets should have stopped at the German border in 1945 and let Hitler stay in power.
     
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    That was never going to happen. Everyone learned their lesson in World War One when the allies did not occupy Germany. It provided the entire basis for the "stab in the back myth" that helped lead to a revival of German hypermilitarism.
     
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    I know. I was being a smart-ass.
     
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    Stalin had no responsibility for Germany. He was a foreigner.

    Germans have the responsibility for Germany.

    The wealth of west Germany was bought with east german blood. Its that simple. Adenauer chose the comfort solution. He sacrificed one third of the population for money.
    He was such a small, pathetic little mayor and never grew out of it.

    And one thing, my own state is a special case. Thüringen was "West Germany" and was given away by the americans into the communist dictatorship in exchange for West Berlin.

    So in the case of Thüringen it was USA doing that threw my state into communist dictatorship.

    So you know what? I dont need a Reagan statue. I want his rotten corpse, hanging from Brandenburg Gate.
     
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    Your father was a NSDAP member and used slave workers in his pathetic little company.

    My grandmother was not in SED, did not join any organisation. She was pushed into working in a village clinic.

    Of course she is not as flexible in her ideology as your father, who went from NSDAP to CDU.
     
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    Triggered.

    Tja
     
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    Stalin helped the Soviet Union win the war, so they occupied East Germany and we occupied West Germany. So what difference?

    Frankly I think Stalin keeps getting a bum rap here, when his only fault was that he reigned too long. Had it been Lenin or Khruschev, things probably would have been a lot worse - or at least for the Russians.
     
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    Do you really think the Germans wanted Hitler in power? The dream he gave them about a greater Germany was gone, and the rest of Europe with it. Besides too many Russians died in the Nazi extermination and ethnic cleansing campaign so they could grab the rich black soil of Ukraine and W. Russia. Of course there was going to be payback by the Soviets.

    The whole purpose of the war was that rich soil. Germany needed it to feed its expanding population. Everything else was immaterial and only came about because of Britain's fears of Germany and Mussolini's ambitions to restore the Roman Empire - which happened to fail miserably and only dragged Germany into the Balkans and Eastern Mediterranean.

    Germany then began threatening Britain's lifeline, forcing them to fight for their survival in places like Egypt, Crete, etc. (I might be wrong, but this is how I see it.)
     
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    No, just amused that the son of a weak nazi collaborateur tries to insult my family. Your father did not even fight. He was just that, a small collaborateur who made his fortune with slave work.

    Your pathetic story about him just proved that. Well i assume he is long dead so no problem left. I guess his business is also long dead with him.
     
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    Sobo, what was the alternative, a war with a nuclear power, or a war between two nuclear powers? Take your pick.
     
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    Everyone in this world has problems, but your resentments and hatreds are out of bounds. I suggest you do something to resolve those issues before they get out of hand, especially since you're a police officer with a gun.
     
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    Germany lost the war and the reparations freaked them out. Besides, I gather from something I read that there was a failure of the farms in Germany. If so, the rise of the Nazi Party had a lot to do with climate change.

    As for stab in back myth, the British gave them a good reason to think that. According to the book: The Palestine Papers, they were throwing leaflets down on the German army telling the Jews not to fight for Germany, because Britain was going to give them Palestine.

    Then there was the Communist Party which was quite strong in Germany, and the horrors of the Bolsheviks in the USSR were still fresh in their minds. The Nazi (nationalist) Party rose to combat the Internationalism of the Communist Party - much as it's rising again in Europe to combat globalism.

    Then there was the rich black earth in Ukraine and Russia that the Germans eyed so they could feed their large population. That problem was solved though by Churchill with his own extermination campaign.


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