Abilene teenager dies after accidentally shooting himself in head while playing with gun

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    There were several - did you read the story?
    None of this is relevant to the fact he posted meaningless speculation.
     
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    Genius
     
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    It's possible kid was Jesus, and shot himself so he could go see Cthulhu.
    How does that shape your opinion?
     
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    Training has been proven not to work

    Whose fault is it that they do not check research data before posting?

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180515113601.htm
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/taraha...r-child-but-this-question-might/#240a148e55b8

    So, you would prefer an “ask” program where parents interrogate others about firearm availability?

    Btw

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    Says the person who made an unsupported allegation in the OP
     
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    It's obviously not a very plausible possibility.
    I don't wish to get into a philosophical debate with you here on the underlying nature of logic.
    The fact remains, speculation can be logical.

    Yes, that is ironic, isn't it.
     
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    Probably wasn't the brightest kid.
     
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    Sheer speculation, such as we see here, can be ignored.
     
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    And if there were no disease in the world, no one would ever die due to illness. But such is not going to come to pass and thus is not worth discussing further.
     
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    Even the not-so-bright can be trained.
     
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    Coroners will often say that as it is a lighter burden on the family.

    If it had been drilled into him that a gun is always loaded it would be easier to make a determination, but a compassionate coroner will still say it was accidental.
     
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    And totally unsupported, too.
     
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    Yes, thats why I specified 'educational platform.' As a practice, abstinance is the most reliable method to avoid pregnancy and STDs. However, teaching abstinance in liu of contraceptives, protection, personal hygiene, knowledge, discernment in partners, sexual discipline etc leads to disaster for more commonly than teaching abstinance and safer sex practices.

    Its no different with guns. By presuming youths will simply head our directive of 'don't touch' or by believing its possible to actually control all the guns, we doom those that innevitably will come into contact with them anyway to do so in total ignorance.
     
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    And if there were no cars, kids could not die in them and if there were prescription drugs, kids could not OD on them, if there were no pools, kids could drown in them and if bullfrogs had wings, they would not bump their tiny asses when hopping.
     
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    It was the Russians.






















    Roulette
     
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    All the coroner will say is that the cause of death was a bullet to the head. Anything else is not his job.
     
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    Define "good possibility". 50%? 1%? .01%? Was that someone a responsible adult with legal access to the gun?
     
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    You can't 'teach' abstinence to a 14 year old whose entire life has been informed by adults modeling poor impulse control. When you hand the keys to the palace to such a child, they will wreck the joint. And by 'keys' I mean sex-ed and/or gun safety training. You're basically confirming what they already erroneously suspect, that sex (and/or guns) is unavoidable in youth.
     
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    14 is a child.
     
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    14 is a minor.
     
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    True. But that doesnt have anything to do with education. One can be taught about a subject without being encouraged to engage in it.

    The problem is that they already 'have the keys.' To treat them like they don't is an insult. As much as some may be more likely to take knowledge as permission, others will just rebel. In both cases, they'll be better off doing so well informed on what they're doing.
     
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    In the old days, 14 wasn't too young to send the boy off on his own with a rifle hunting in the forest.

    Of course, these days there are many "underprivileged" city schools where half the 14-year-olds couldn't be trusted with a butter knife.
     
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