Where are you coming from?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    To what extent are you a product of your state or region?

    In the past 20 years, the number of Americans age 25 and older with a master’s degree or a doctoral degree has doubled. As of 2018, the 13.1 percent of Americans who hold an advanced degree earned on average 3.7 times as much as those who had not completed high school.

    The percentages of people holding advanced degrees in each of the top 15 most highly educated states come from the Census Bureau’s American Community Survey.:

    Massachusetts

    Maryland

    Connecticut

    Virginia

    New York

    Vermont

    New Jersey

    Colorado

    New Hampshire

    Delaware

    Illinois

    Washington

    Rhode Island

    Oregon

    California​


    Interestingly, there is zero correlation with the 15 states that have the highest obesity rates.

    (According to the CDC, a person living with obesity will pay $1,429 more in medical costs than a person at a normal weight.)

    West Virginia

    Mississippi

    Oklahoma

    Iowa

    Alabama

    Louisiana

    Arkansas

    Kentucky

    Alaska

    South Carolina

    Ohio.

    Indiana

    North Dakota

    Texas

    Nebraska​

    The richest states?

    Maryland

    New Jersey

    Alaska

    Connecticut

    Hawaii

    Massachusetts

    New Hampshire

    Virginia

    California

    Minnesota

    Washington

    Colorado

    Utah

    Delaware

    North Dakota​

    The poorest?

    Mississippi

    West Virginia

    Arkansas

    Alabama

    Kentucky

    Tennessee

    Louisiana

    New Mexico

    South Carolina

    Montana

    North Carolina

    Florida

    Oklahoma

    Idaho

    Missouri

    Ohio

    https://blogs.voanews.com/all-about-america/2015/09/21/these-are-americas-richest-poorest-states/


    Highest Firearm Mortality Rate

    Alaska

    Alabama

    Montana

    Mississippi

    Missouri

    Louisiana

    Arkansas

    Wyoming

    West Virginia

    New Mexico

    Tennessee

    South Carolina

    Oklahoma

    Idaho Kentucky
    Lowest Firearm Fatality Rate

    Hawaii

    Massachusetts

    New York

    New Jersey

    Rhode Island

    Connecticut

    California

    Minnesota

    Nebraska

    Iowa

    New Hampshire

    Wisconsin

    Michigan

    Maine

    Virginia

    South Dakota​

    An objective perusal of these and other empirical demographic data can help to explain differing ideological perspectives.

     
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    I don't see the stats that you're getting that from. If educational attainment doesn't have a states Minnesota among the top 10, I'd question its validity.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Looks like the north has the most favorable conditions and education. And firearm-wise it's also the safest compared to our brothers and sisters to the south of us (except for Virginia).
     
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    Virginia is loaded with educational institutions and well-educated governmental employees.
     
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    Part of covering up California's homeless crisis like Epstein and Clinton, is not reporting on the crime it generates. California has a huge humanitarian crisis and it is being covered up by Democrats.
     
  6. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Minnesota is 18th in the US Census Bureau’s American Community Survey.
    If you have an alternate ranking that places Minnesota in the top 10, you can provide it.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    The differences in firearm fatality rates is stark. Fatter people may be more apt to shoot one another, or just make easier targets.
     
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    I have a BS and MS. In total, I have over two hundred semester hours. I served twenty years in the Air Force with a tour in Vietnam. I was given my first gun when I was thirteen. I still have it along with a doze or so other guns. I have visited all fifty states and nearly thirty countries and five continents. I generally liked all of them. Where am I from and what difference does it make?
     
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    Why is Illinois not on that list? It should be like #1!
     
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    I notice another significant aspect of what you have accumulated here:

    The most educated states vote mostly blue...and the least educated states vote red. The least educated backed Trump...the most educated did not.

    The richest/poorest broke the same way.

    I'm happy my state of New Jersey got on the lists where I would want them.
     
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    Good stuff, Bumps :thumbsup:

    Cutting to the chase:

    red states = SH*THOLES (on many levels)...
     
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    regardless of where folks like to imagine where states should be on the CDC's listings, they are where they are as the empirical reality.

    Illinois ties with Oregon at #18.
     
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    Like clockwork, OP repeats the sweaty, insecure, trolling "most/ least educated" lie narrative in slightly different format on a biweekly basis... yet again. I am sure that the NEA chapter OP writes endless newsletter entries for is quite proud (or more likely embarrassed at this point).

    1. Trump won college educated whites.
    2. Trump won 2 of the top income hexiles, tied on one, lost one. DEMOCRATS WON THE BOTTOM TWO INCOME HEXILES AS THEY USUALLY DO.
    3. Income is well-documented to correlate highly with both intelligence and level of true education.
    4. Government workers, unlike private sector workers, most specifically teachers but all gov workers and many contractors, are given lockstep pay increases due to possessing and obtaining junk degrees in anything from anywhere. Government workers then take that useless paper and the exorbitant benefits STOLEN from the private sector, and vote Democrat, not due to more intelligence or education, but out of pure financial self-interest.

    Debunked yet again and byebye! until OP repeats the shitpile again in two weeks (or less).
     
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  15. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Even those in denial of reflecting their personal demographics are very likely to.

    It's not a matter of "first and foremost." It's a matter of honestly acknowledging such influences.
     
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    Do you deny that you (remember that every one of your posts are archived) think of yourself and others first and foremost as members of groups rather than individuals? Natty baby, you're the poster child of group think. You're all about the group think. Your whole thing is all about thinking of yourself and others first and foremost as members of groups rather than as individuals. That's your world view. Come on natty; you gotta admit it. You're a group think type of guy.
     
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    Here's a little monkey wrench for 'ya. Michael Dell, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, and, until recently, Steven Spielberg didn't graduate from college. I'm reasonably sure these are not the only "anomaly's."

    Opion8d barely got out of high school and stumbled through college, so that's the other side of the coin. :wink:
     
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    Pretty much every graduate degree that's worth a damn, from nursing to business to engineering, requires stats. A fundamental tenet of statistics is the correlation-causation fallacy which the OP doesn't seem to understand.

    It's fairly evident that the OP doesn't have a graduate degree.
     
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    The way the 90% of people who don't get college degrees see it, there are two types of college degrees: There are STEM and other hard science degrees and then there are degrees in various grievances. Your grievance degrees (anything in a "studies") are probably best left off of your resumes. In other words, there two very distinct types of people coming out of universities: highly skilled people and trouble makers.
     
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    13 cities in 9 states along my journey: East, Midwest, West, and South. As much as people believe they’re different they’re the same. Call it Pop or Soda it’s still the same damn thing except when Coke is everything.
     
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    Of course. Nowhere have I ever suggested your "first and foremost" prioritization.
    You may like to fancy yourself impervious to your demographic factors, but that's silly.

    Is a young, affluent, secular, Black, female college professor in Boston likely to share the same perspective as an old, poor, evangelical, White, male sanitation worker in Biloxi?

    They are equal in their status as citizens of the United Stares, but their differing profiles make it likely that their views differ concerning many issues.

    If you were nurtured in a bubble, isolated from all social and biological differences, you may not be subject to such influences, of course.
     
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    What's embarrassing is the states financial stability,

    California, New Jersey, Illinois always dead last, broke ass states with a huge public employee union pension bubble
     
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    Each of those states is among the richest in the nation...and each sends more to Washington than the leaching states.
     
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    They are financially unstable, jesus Illinois was trying to go bankrupt

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/fiscal-stability


    Tennessee is the top state for fiscal stability. It’s followed by Florida, South Dakota, North Carolina and Utah to round out the top five. Half of the 10 states with the best fiscal stability also rank among the top 10 Best States overall
     
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    It's a huge problem in California and Illinois.

    Sorry.

    https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-pension-crisis-davis-deal/



    With the stroke of a pen, California Gov. Gray Davis signed legislation that gave prison guards, park rangers, Cal State professors and other state employees the kind of retirement security normally reserved for the wealthy.

    More than 200,000 civil servants became eligible to retire at 55 — and in many cases collect more than half their highest salary for life. California Highway Patrol officers could retire at 50 and receive as much as 90% of their peak pay for as long as they lived.
     
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