Where are you coming from?

The richest of a nation is to be found in the culture it achieves, not merely in the practical skills it inculcates.

An exclusively trade-school populace would leave much potential tragically unfulfilled. The diversity of human endeavor is integral to progress.

“The science of government it is my duty to study, more than all other sciences; the arts of legislation and administration and negotiation ought to take the place of, indeed exclude, in a manner, all other arts. I must study politics and war, that our sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. Our sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history and naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry and porcelain.” John Adams​

 

Lol...You seem to know absolutely nothing about the US.
California’s economy is the 6th biggest in the world.

 

Uhm trying to hide California union pension bubble is nothing to laugh about, plus its financial stability is almost dead last.

 

I’m so thankful we don’t have to pick from just one of Adams’ list. A real progressive would understand we don’t have to. I guess it’s hard to control people with a mind open to practical as well as philosophical and creative pursuits. A caste system is better suited to your ends I suppose.

 

India is the 8th biggest economy by country. It’s #16 for the countries with the most malnutrition with nearly 15% of the population suffering from malnutrition.

California is the state with the highest poverty rate. California is rapidly moving from a net contributor to the Treasury to a net taker. Nobody cares about the size of your economy if you have impoverished people suffering all over.

 

Despite the undeniable patterns, some like to pretend that demographics are not significant factors in their personal perspectives, and some like to pretend that they are exclusively determinative.

 

And your demographic prefers a controllable caste system.

A question. If you are a progressive, (and I’m using this as a example), because you’ve thought it out rationally, do you move to Oklahoma and noodle catfish every weekend with the locals?

 

If you are incapable of accepting that demographic factors - level of education, affluence, age, gender, race, religion, regional differences, etc., etc., etc. have an impact upon one's general perspective, and you need to contrive that someone is presenting a thesis that they are exclusively and entirely determinative, that is what you will do.

 

Natty baby, your intersectionality is showing.

 

Between your racism in your last post and your classism in this one i'd say that Woodrow Wilson would be quite proud of you.

 

How many of your "educated" people can change a kitchen faucet, or change out a bad alternator in their car?

 

Your perversion of demographics is amusing.

Nevertheless, e.g., the electorate of what the CDC has determined are the "most highly educated state" - Massachusetts, Maryland, Connecticut, Virginia, New York, Vermont, New Jersey, Colorado. New Hampshire, Delaware, Illinois, Washington, Rhode Island, Oregon, and California - does differ, in their aggregate voting pattern, from the least educated. The empirical correlation is significant, not absolute.

That is among the various demographic factors (along with age, affluence, gender, etc., etc. etc.) that account for the undeniable difference in political preferences.

If you wish to pretend that there are no such factors, it is an odd pretense, indeed.

 

Not a one, if that is what you want to believe.

The demographic correlation is empirical, based upon the statistical reality, and makes no value judgments.

 

Spent the first 28 years of my life in New Jersey.
Spent the next 28 years of my life south of the Mason-Dixon.

I guess, once again, I am an anomaly. We make choices, and spending one's life in a rat race that the rats are winning, is a personal choice. Of course earnings in the NE are higher than the SE, but so is the cost of living. I go through this discussion at least twice a year with family members who have chosen to finish their professional lives in the NE, but as retirement looms large on the horizon, serious inquiries have been made as to living conditions here in the SE.

I won't be moving north, but I'll lay odds on them moving south.

 

Given the inevitability of anthropogenic clime change (despite those who irrationally dismiss it as a Chinese hoax) the South is migrating Northward.

 

I’m not denying the influence of any of those things. I’m trying to free people from slavery to those things. I much prefer to lift people up out of negative situations than belittle them based on stereotypes. It also bothers me when people who believe most everything they do personally can be rationalized through subjective moral standards want to judge other’s behaviors and life choices. Per your OP, is an overweight Louisiana dweller eating fried catfish any less valuable as a human than a Boston native with a Ph.d with vitamin D deficiency?

Sure, let’s try and learn from each other. If that’s your point I’m all in.

 

I have no idea why you are unable to accept demographic correlations without resorting to your "stereotypes."

Your personally insinuating your "overweight Louisiana dweller eating fried catfish" into the empirical reality is a perversion of the data, certainly not one I would ever ascribe to.
Such subjective value judgments are antithetical to the validity of such statistical analysis.

 

Stats on that? A quick google brought this:
https://www.move.org/why-americans-are-moving-to-southern-and-western-states/

My move, in part, was weather. I was done with 6 months of winter, and moved to where winter is maybe 3 months at most, and mid-mild. Growing season is doubled, but so is mosquito season. Considering this past summer was one of the cooler ones, and non-anthropogenic climate change is not even degree every now and then, the migration is sadly mis-timed if you honestly believe in it.

 

The funniest thing about this comment was I moved to South Carolina for 15 years from Chicago, I hated the wet heat, then moved to Arizona, the dry heat was ok, then moved to Wyoming and now Idaho

 

Please comparing states on gun violence is an absurdity given that most gun crime occurs in cities re the following article

Comparing gun violence on a state by state basis is pretty much an exercise in bad faith, given that gun violence mostly occurs in cities. For instance according to https://everytownresearch.org/gun-violence-cities/ 50% of gun violence occurs in 127 cities, that contain just 6% of the country's population. Further note that in many of these cities just looking at homicide rates misses most of the problem since nonfatal shootings can be from 2 to 5 times higher.

 

California sir is the land of the extremely wealthy and the extremely poor. The wealth gap their in spite of the tax code is as extreme as any where in the US if not more so. Why because as I have pointed out before high taxes don't spread wealth they concentrate it.

 

Personal preferences. I am starting to understand the 'snowbird' theory of life, said with a laugh. I may wander west for a few months out of the year, come retirement. Highly doubtful on the north thing though.

 

This is another "leftists are better than deplorables" thread.

 

You mean except when talking about other countries, since that would be racist.

 

I have no idea why when I say I do accept demographic correlations you come back and say I don’t. Do you have statistics on that behavior? Is it influenced by your religion, your geographical location, or your education? I’ve simply pointed out your stereotyping.

Of course you wouldn’t. That’s my point. You don’t see individuals with individual value. You seem to only see pawns in a political game.