Educated vs "Non-Educated"

As is the need to navigate homeless junkie poop. You'd have to be some kinda genius, obviously.

 

Not if they all have useless bachelor degrees, can't compete with an increasingly STEM world, and have lost 80% of their emotional IQ points via being locked in the arts/humanities bubble for 4 years

 

Have you really? IOW, no you haven't. What you've seen is the good use of knowledge made by those with the personal discipline and stability to benefit from it. The same pre-schooling and so on in a child without those personal characteristics, will amount to virtually nothing. There are many kids graduating high school with barely any indication they've been educated, and they're doing so alongside high achievers from the same school.

 

Something I have found common in right-wingers is their love of ridiculing the intelligence of blacks for speaking ebonics, so you can understand why people might assume that the semi-literate comments right-wingers habitually trot out are a sign of their low mental capacity or lack of knowledge, and give their rants the consideration they deserve.

 

We didn't get those results.
When we moved here our community set up a foundation that adopted a very poor school in what was a mining town. We provided food and preschool to every kid coming in - still do. It was a simple matter to confirm the success of the program based on graduation, college and work.
Maybe a social experiment would be a better description.
Oh. and fully tax deductible.

 

The 90s called, they want their stale rationalization of broken English back.

BTW, it's not just blacks, millions of whites speak "ebonics" today, they are stupid too.

 

Preschool isn't really the best measure. Those kids are still in the formation stage (under 6), and are showing the benefits of focused attention and engagement, not education per say. It's far more appropriate to measure high school graduates, to see what difference education makes in real terms. For many, it makes literally no difference other than in very rudimentary literacy and numeracy.

 

makes me quite skeptical with the source of information,
fake news are quite rampant nowadays.

 

I pay for results myself.
Do you realize how ridiculous your argument is when we live in a capitalist society that will sell their soul for another point of profit?
They get something from those college grads or they wouldn't pay them more.

 

So Starbucks pays their Gender Studies grads more than high school dropouts, for the same role?

And how about the kid who JUST passed an arts degree, compared to an engineering grad who took honours?

ALL of it is relative. A 'useless' arts/humanities degree is only an indicator of 3 years of college attendance, barely more. A medical degree is evidence of an extremely high level of productivity, commitment, and focus from age 12 until graduation from 7 years of college.

 

Ah okay got it, my take for that is that it's easy to trace track records of candidates doesn't need rocket science to do that. Just a simple reading prowess and common sense understanding.

 

Of course, and an education opens doors to better employment opportunities and a better income.

I beg to differ. An education makes a person more knowledgeable and generally more informed. However, education has nothing to do with innate intelligence people are born with. A non-college educated farmer in Montana could easily be more intelligent than a college grad.

 

It doesn’t have to be that way. I give my pickup mechanic a couple fields to hunt deer on because I appreciate his efforts to get my vehicles up and running ASAP.

I know this entire country will likely never act like a team again, but it’s interesting to consider what we could accomplish if we did.

At the present time we will have to make due with the areas of the country that still exhibit a modicum of team behavior.

 

Well- if that is your personal reaction to my post, I'm willing to put my IQ, my values and record of success up against you anytime. There are intelligent people in all races, and in all political parties. Personally- I read who people are by what they do and how they respect others. Intelligence is not wisdom. Knowledge is not understanding. An intelligent person with knowledge, lacking wisdom and understanding, can be relied on to make an ass of themselves regardless of race or party. The difference is that those lacking those two qualities- have no idea they are doing so.

 

No. Actually Starbucks pays for an online degree.

We’re committed to the success of our partners (employees). Every benefits-eligible U.S. partner working part- or full-time receives 100% tuition coverage for a first-time bachelor’s degree through Arizona State University’s online program. Choose from over 80 diverse undergraduate degree programs, and have our support every step of the way.

https://www.starbucks.com/careers/working-at-starbucks/education

 

That's commendable, but just a question, why didnt you set it up in your home town first, why did you move?

 

Independent. Going to be hard to criticize my group since being an Independent means that you are not a part of any group. But hey, go for it.

 

What do the baristas that already graduated college do?

 

huh ? Unless some one has been through an institute of higher learning they really aren’t qualified to make a judgement as to what the connection is to intelligence. First, it’s specific. You aren’t improving your intellectual skills in biology while taking courses in English Lit. Neither are they qualified to decide which courses are more important for society.

Secondly...
The pressure to use your innate intelligence in an area is extremely difficult In higher education. . If you ever play upper level sports, there is a daily requirement to demonstrate and improve your physical skills. Don’t you think that improves your skills specific to the sport you play ? Of course it does. Is there cross Over value to some other activities ? Of course there is, just like there is cross over in math by taking some language courses.

Higher education places a similar demand on intellectual performance. its specific and there is crossover value in other areas.

No one cares what you call it, some are into this general IQ when in reality, intelligence is specific to a task. Higher education with a specific major requires a rigorous demonstration and improvement of intellectual skills in a specific area. No more, no less....

 

I moved to a active adult community.
Much easier to get it done when people aren't working and have some money.
I didn't set it up. I was a participant.

 

Which specific major?

 

That's not answering my question, why did you move in the first place?

For example I moved out of illionois due to high crime and high taxes

 

Move up.

"People love to use the image of a college-educated barista," said Richard Dietz, assistant vice president at the N.Y. Fed. "We realized it was a lot less pervasive than you might be led to believe."

Only about 9 percent of all recent college graduates worked in a low-skill service job from 2009 through 2013, the four years following the recession.

And for 20-somethings who are worried about getting stuck in those jobs forever, the researchers had some additional good news: The percentage who are employed in service jobs drops by half by the time they reach their mid-20s, which suggests that they're transitioning to jobs better tailored to their skills.
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And underemployment doesn't necessarily mean minimum-wage work. About half of underemployed millennials hold relatively high-paying jobs, such as in information processing and business support, where the average wage is slightly more than $59,000, the researchers found. The largest share, about one-quarter, are in office and administrative support roles, where the average annual pay is $37,207 -- far more than a barista would take home.

And even if college grads are temporarily stuck in noncollege jobs, the researchers found evidence showing they're more likely to be working in higher-paying jobs than their counterparts without college educations.

Isn't the internet neat?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-college-grads-are-actually-baristas/

 

I retired a little early.
I moved for a warmer climate and a place where people were home during the day and there was a lot of things to do.

 

Come on down and have a look.
https://www.saddlebrooke.org/