Stampede kills 56 at funeral for Iranian general slain by US

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  1. ButterBalls

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    Ahh, but to others it may be joyful and pleasurable ;)
     
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    Karma is BS
     
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    Why is it fallacious if that's how the person believes it to be true? And that raises the question why, why would it be considered syllogistic if the same person believes or assumed it to be true/fact ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    I’m sure you think that.
    Death is tragic. Sometimes necessary, but tragic.
    The death of non-combatant civilians is never necessary.
     
  5. DaveBN

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    I tend to find that Christians are the last ones to follow the example of Christ. Is that irony? Maybe it’s just sad.
     
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    Something something pigs... something something mud... something something fun.
    Your game as been identified and dismissed.
     
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    How do you know he has never been? I've read from several of the left here on PF it's like a fad nowadays, not a big deal anymore and that we should all learn to mind are own business ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    Apparently this isn't unprecedented...
     
  9. DaveBN

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    It sounds like on of the risks of being in large crowds. Stampedes and crushing deaths involving crowds have happened all over the world including the United States.
    Damn shame, the whole lot of ya.
     
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    I can't think of any stampedes at funerals here in the states, perhaps at Walmart. Do you acknowledge they were there at the funeral honoring the life of an international terrorist?
     
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    I'm sure you think that the terrorist fanboys who got trampled at the funeral of their beloved mass murderer are akin to innocent children whose lives were lost on a battlefield but some of us are capable of seeing the difference as well as your exercise in false equivalence.

    Perhaps, the deaths of the terrorist fanboys who got trampled at the funeral of their beloved mass murderer was necessary. When their families get to experience what the families of Qassem Soleimani victims experienced perhaps it will force them to reconsider their admiration for men like him who make a living out of killing non-combatant civilians.
     
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    So these folks kill each other at an event about the death of one of their own?

    And we are supposed to be afraid to piss these folks off? LOL!
     
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    not a healthy choice... ;)
     
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    Ya know, I think you're on to something here, bug.

    If we kill more of their leaders their henchmen and supporters will take care of killing themselves! :lol:

    Too bad we didn't think of this before the recent protests in Iran. We could have saved the lives of at least 1000 demonstrators and helped them liberate themselves from the illegitimate regime that has been killing, imprisoning and oppressing their people for four decades.
     
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  15. DaveBN

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    Why would I deny where it happened? The part you seem to miss is the whole world doesn’t view things through the same lens that the US does. These people were morning the loss of a government official. Hard to say what sparked the incident, but people lost their lives while grieving at a funeral. Tragic.
     
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    The whole world doesn’t view thing through the same lens as the US. If you lived in a country that has suffered under the US’ occupation you’d see him in a different light. These people lost a well liked government official.
    Of course he deserved to die, even if I don’t agree with the timing, at the very least people could acknowledge what the average Iranian citizen is going through.
     
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    Yeah, Soleimani was just a "government official".

    What an epic whitewashing job.

    You can dismount now, and try not to break your neck on the way down.
     
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    Would you be equally sympathetic if Klan members were sad because their Klan leader was killed?

    Your argument is built on quicksand.

    Your compassion (for terrorists and their supporters, wtf) is horribly misguided. Horribly.
     
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    What's hard to fathom is the behaviour that would cause a 'stampede'. These were adults, no?
     
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    Perhaps you didn't understand my question. Do you acknowledge that the person who they were grieving for is an international terrorist?
     
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    I get that empathy most be a difficult skill for some, but you could give it a try some time. You might find yourself to be a happier person over all.
     
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    Do you think the average Iranian citizen viewed him as a terrorist committing atrocities?
     
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    You act like butt ****ed is something bad. How homophobic! Your slurs about homosexual behavior are probably offensive to them. Come on, get woke, man.
     
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    What you seem to miss is that the whole world - including many average Iranian citizens - doesn't view Soleimani and his supporters through the same lens that you do, either. Soleimani was a monster operating on behalf of a regime that Ruhollah Khomeini's own hand-picked successor described as "condemned and illegitimate", and no amount of whitewashing, moral equivalence and sanctimonious posturing will gloss that over.

    If you want to sympathize with those people that's you're prerogative, but if you think that makes you a more moral and civilized person think again.
     
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    Assuming you’re actually interested in the topic here’s a pretty comprehensive look at the phenomenon.
    https://www.citylab.com/equity/2012/07/physics-explain-deadly-crowd-disasters/2550/

    "At very low density, when everybody can move freely, [crowd dynamics are] like a gas," he says. "When the density goes up, then eventually peoples' movements are constrained, and it becomes more like a fluid. And then at very high densities, when people are squeezed in between other bodies, it’s more like a granular material."
     
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