Australia arrests 183 for setting bushfires that celebrities claim were caused by climate change

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's pretty basic. Have you ever looked at any of the scientific information on the issue?
     
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    Alright, clearly the figures in the 'The Australian' article are for the whole of 2019, given that they've now updated their own story. The Guardian tells us that Victorian police has no evidence that arson started any of the fires this season, but they haven't heard the same thing from NSW or Queensland police and presumably they asked them. Bottom line is that it seems that many of the fires in NSW and QLD were started by arson, we just don't know which ones. Only 43 of the reported 183 were from Victoria.
     
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  3. chris155au

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    No, the Guardian is a left wing rag. I have about as much basis for that as you do for calling The Australian a right wing rag.
     
  4. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong! No paper was more anti Corbyn than the Guardian. The Guardian used to be left of centre but since Snowden it has been sold and works with our security services.
     
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    Isn't that 12 year old boy their poster reporter? I thought he was a Corbynista.
     
  6. DaveBN

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    How am I digging myself deeper, and what Parts of your post do you feel explained it?
     
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  8. DaveBN

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    Ah, another “Justice is for the wealthy” argument. No thanks.
    Read the link I supplied to Chris if you’d like more details on the topic.
     
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    Why is that?
     
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    I know the difference between arson and bushfire offences, I know there were not 183 cases of arson and I know there is no evidence that "climate nutters" started a single fire. I know that troll bots have been circulating fake news to discredit the environmental movement and I know that several members of the forum are repeating fake news from an unreliable source including the OP.
     
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    Not average temperature over the whole continent.
    Last week every state in Australia recorded temperatures over 40 degrees on the same day. I don't think this has happened before.
     
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  12. Sallyally

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    You’re allowed.
     
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    Well, only if you're interested in being taken seriously.
     
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    So many soft fallacies here. The actual data doesn't, in fact, show that climate change does any of the above. What climate change in AU has demonstrated is that the growing seasons are longer, that more vegetation is being produced. The idea then that it is "drier" is fictional. For, if in fact it were, there wouldn't be the prodigious fuel available that we see. And frankly, why avoid the catastrophic human behavior of arson here? The catastrophe isn't being caused because fire just happened, it's being caused because a bunch of fire bugs are out the lighting them. That isn't climate change, it's criminal human behavior.
     
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    There are numerous resources on the climate change. I prefer NASA’s work.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/climate.nasa.gov/evidence.amp


    “The planet's average surface temperature has risen about 1.62 degrees Fahrenheit (0.9 degrees Celsius) since the late 19th century, a change driven largely by increased carbon dioxide and other human-made emissions into the atmosphere.4 Most of the warming occurred in the past 35 years, with the five warmest years on record taking place since 2010. Not only was 2016 the warmest year on record, but eight of the 12 months that make up the year — from January through September, with the exception of June — were the warmest on record for those respective months.”
     
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    So what we have here is another fake story propagated by a right winger... will wonders never cease.
     
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    I love you Australia .. but you are So Stupid.
    Sad Stupid.
    Waiting for the rain to stop the fires .. :sniff:
     
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    Nothing fake about it, arson has caused many of the fires.
     
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    If you overlaid Australia over the US.
     
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    So you’re going to ignore the title of the thread? Cute.
     
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    What makes you say this? Those little fire bugs aren't "nutters" and given what is happening there and the climate of fear that is being generated, you don't like the adjective?? Must be nice to retain that kind of smug....
     
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    Put them with front line fire crews till the last ember is out
     
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    If they have already had a trial and found guilty. They have had justice.
    Justice delayed is justice denied.
     
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    The title is very appropriate too bad you don't like it, but that will happen when the truth smacks you in the face.
     
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