'The worst briefing I've had': Senate Iran briefing gets heated

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  1. Bluesguy

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    You don't know what information was given in the breifing and I was just giving and example I could subsitiute any number of other terrorist. And yes there are security risk in Congress Omar being just one of them.
    The President had clear authority to conduct the strike end of story.
     
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    What delay they were informed in a timely manner what difference does a few hours make?
     
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    The victim was an OFFICIAL of the IRANIAN government!
     
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    They considered it in the planning. The head of the CIA said a missile strike against forces in the area was likely but the benefits would out weigh the possible results. And she was correct. And Trump showed the proper leadership. Stop making things up.

    CIA Director Haspel Backed Killing, Predicted Missile Attacks
    https://www.newsmax.com/politics/soleimani-iran-ginahaspel-cia/2020/01/09/id/949042/
     
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    Obama sending troops to get Bin Laden. Show me proof Obama told the Congress what he was going to get Bin Laden prior to the raid.
     
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    So you are more concerned with an OFFICIAL of the IRANIAN government over an American citizen meeting the same fate without the Constitution's due process owed to US Citizen Anwar al-Awlaki and the additional murder of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki his US Citizen 16 year old son? Says a lot about your mindset.
     
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    No, not really.

    I mean I do appreciate the change in direction you created. After years of being called a leftist or Libby on PF, it's refreshing to see that I may have finally proven I hate both of the damn cults.
     
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    That was provided in the prior links by @Cubed.
     
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    What your IMPOTUS was an ILLEGAL Act of War!

    And IMPOTUS supporters are in no position to point fingers when it comes to "mindsets" for OBVIOUS reasons!
     
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    Specifics my good man......specifics before the Bin Laden raid sent to Congress.
     
  12. Professor Peabody

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    No, Ole Salamai wasn't killed on Iranian soil.

    Did Obama or did he not inform Congress of the Bin Laden raid before it went down? Proof please.
     
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    The poster I responded to did.
     
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    Links were vague and provided no actual proof.
     
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    What a coincidence, mine too!!
     
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    I'm sure you believe that crapola.
     
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    Wasn't the Ukrainian funding, which was withheld earlier and released later. Try and keep up.
     
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    True...I don't know what was said in the briefing and am relying on interviews with both Republican and Democratic attendees who complained about its inadequacy afterwards. I have no idea what Omar's security clearance is. If she has the appropriate clearance, I see no reason not to have briefed her as well. However, I don't believe the War Powers Act requires that the entire Congress be notified. I think the leadership of both Parties, from both the Senate and House would fulfill the requirement. Whether he had the authority to conduct the strike is debatable.
     
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    I rely on those who said it was complete and informative and showed the raid was totally justified. And whether he had the authority is not being debated the Democrats are whining they did get to vote on it or something.
     
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    We disagree. Who are the Congressional people briefed you are referring to? The Republicans I am referring to are Senators Paul and Lee. I believe both would call themselves members of the libertarian wing of the Party. Do you think they were lying?
    The WH seems to have adhered to the War Powers Act requiring notification within 48 hours. The debate would be did the the message itself fulfill the requirements of the Act in relation to timing, cause, etc. I would argue that an inference may be drawn from the timing of the message itself (adhering to the Act) an awareness of the other requirements of the Act and raise the question of whether or not they were met?
     
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    Yes, without caveats.
     
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    Paul and Lee are LONG TERM isolationist not represented of the Republicans on such foreign policy and Lee even said later he was not complaining about the briefing of the how and why but the what now.

    The raid was legal and justified..............end of story.
     
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    I listened to Lee complain. He's changed his story. And, I don't think the WH notification to Congress complies with the War Powers Act. International law seems to hang on the definition of "imminent." Unless you have some reasonable estimate of when an attack will happen, it's impossible to know whether it is imminent or not. I think it fails on both counts. I suspect it will be debated in the U.N. Security Council and, if available, will listen to the administration's explanation there. Should be interesting.
     
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    He clarified it and the Dems for lack of nothing else are hanging on the "imminent" canard. Why should we have belief Soleimani and ceased his continuous and escalating attacks, he created his own imminence giving us no reason to believe his attacks had not stopped and the next one was "imminent".

    I don't understand this mentality that here is a guy who leads multiple terrorist groups who have been attacking us for years, killing hundreds of Americans and thousands of others and has been ramping up and escalating his attacks with 3 last month including an attack on our embassy and an attack on our forces that killed an American but we can't touch him unless we catch him planting the bomb, setting up the mortar, our telling his terrorist get in the trucks, or board the plane with the bomb.

    We KNEW his next attack was coming we KNEW his next attackS were coming..............we took him out. We don't have to know the exact details we know he intent.
     
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    Sorry if a terrorist being killed upsets you. His Mom said he was a really nice guy.
     

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