What is the threshold to be met to warrant the removal of a President?

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  1. Bowerbird

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    I think you should read up what the “Separation of Powers” actually means
     
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    A defendant certainly CAN provide evidence and they usually do in order to prove innocence - so why has Trump not done so?
     
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    He did despite the fact he didn't need to. He provided the transcript of the call that supposedly crossed the line to criminality, which didn't. Republicans were not allowed to call witnesses in the House, the President could not be represented, and only Schiff could take the stage after the closed meetings in the basement of the Capitol Bldg. I'm hoping, to the extent possible, Republicans pay back the Democrats in kind and vote against hearing witnesses who weren't involved in framing the articles, as their testimony would be moot.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    In this country, the accused doesn't have to prove innocence. It's up to the prosecutors, the House in this case, to prove guilt.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    You were not around when they impeached Clinton for a blowjob? :eek:
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Clinton was impeached for lying under oath. His law license was taken away in Arkansas for laying under oath.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    He was impeached for perjury, lying under oath to Congress.

    Having sex with someone who had no choice is rape. Doing it in the people's house on the peoples' dime is embezzlement.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Impeaching Clinton for lying out a blowjob is WHY he was NOT removed by the Senate.
     
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    Did Lewinsky file any rape charges or did she BRAG about getting her "presidential kneepads"?

    Sad that erroneously believe that INTERNS are PAID by taxpayers!

    What other IMAGINARY crimes do you believe Clinton did?

    Was he operating an illegal still in the corner of the Oval office?

    Was he growing weed in the Rose Garden?

    Was he murdering people and hiding their bodies under the presidential carpet?

    Inquiring minds want to know!

    :roflol:
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He was being investigated for sexual abuse. He was asked about Monica Lewinski under oath and lied about it. There were other sexual accusations, but they were never looked at by the democrats. He is a sexual abuser and now it looks like he is in up to his neck with Epstein.
     
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    Which is why you will NEVER see Trump in a court testifying

    That man could not lie straight in bed!
     
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    Clinton was commander in chief of the military. Lewinski was a subordinate. In the military that is punishable under the UCMJ. It did not apply to Clinton because he was a civilian. However, having even consensual sex with a subordinate is tantamount to rape because of the power difference.
     
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    Why were they delving into what was essentially a private affair?
     
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    :roflol:

    Don't forget to check for clues to the 400,000,0000,0000,000 people he supposedly had "murdered" while you are about it!
     
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    Impeach and remove him. I like Pence and I like whoever Pence picks for VP.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Substantiation that he had no morals when it came to sex.
    I thought the number was a lot less than that.
     
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    ADULTS know the difference between a consensual blowjob and rape!

    Too bad that excludes all the pearl clutching IMPOTUS supporters who turn a blind eye to his ***** grabbing and pornstar screwing while his wife was giving birth to his son.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Coming from a LOYAL supporter of the grossly IMMORAL IMPOTUS that is the height of HYPOCRISY!

    :roflol:
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That does not change the power difference.
    I am not into conspiracy theories.

    As far as Trump goes. Go ahead and remove him. I like Pence and whoever he picks as VP.
     
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    Semantics, methinks. A defendant is not responsible to 'provide' evidence. But is it okay for a defendant to hide or obscure evidence? Refuse access to evidence?
     
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    The new threshold, starting this year, is that 50%+ of the House is controlled by the opposing party from the Executive Office. The once-powerful check on power is now just another partisan political tool used to undo the last election and/or to influence the next election.
     
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    Trump can lose, obviously. But Biden is increasingly demonstrating strong signs of outright senility -- plus the open corruption that he engaged in with his son regarding the Ukraine -- and Bernie Sanders is an outright socialist -- and not yet enough Dem Party voters are ready to openly go that route. That leaves Warren and she's just plain messed up. My point being that since Trump still routinely and effortlessly fills up huge venues in his rallies and none of the 'contenders' do -- so far anyway -- and this despite the MSM lying about Trump while promoting all democrat politicians to the hilt, indicates that Trump is probably going to win 2020's election.
     
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    Actually counting Epstein, it is only 56.
     
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    Nice deflection
     
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    The framers of the Constitution did not foresee the possibility of pervasive, pathological lies by a prez nor a media cohort that reinforces those lies. They did not account for a situation when people could read a transcript of the prez extorting a foreign leader, be told it was a perfect conversation by the prez, and believe what he tells them.......not what they are seeing and reading.
     
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