Trump followers demand their Jack Nicholson moment.

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  1. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's a very legitimate point. The impeachment process needing to be focused on Trump and not the Biden's doesn't and should never have meant the Biden's get a pass. Separate investigations should be launched into whether anything improper happened. Trump thinks if the Biden's did something wrong it excuses his own actions when that's simply not the case. It would mean that both the Biden's AND Trump did something wrong.

    It's a very basic concept, one that we teach our children. Two wrongs don't make a right.
     
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  2. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you considered how preposterous it is that Biden would commit the act of corruption you falsely accuse him of and then go out and brag about it publicly?
     
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    Agreed. Well said.
     
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    Have you considered that Biden is serially a moron ??? According to Bill Gates Biden has been wrong on every foreign policy decision since he was elected.
     
  5. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The act of conveying the official position of the US government that a corrupt prosecutor needed to be removed, the same position held by EU countries and the IMF, WHICH WAS NOT BEING DONE FOR BIDEN'S PERSONAL GAIN, isn't bribery.

    The disingenuous distortions by Trump and right wing media on this matter have been exposed as lies...........to all but the most loyal Trumpist's
     
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    It’s bribery regardless of any spin put on it.
     
  7. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Based on what? Baseless allegations? Don't you see this is the exact point of Trump making these allegations, without any evidence, in the first place? To create the illusion of a need to investigate when there is none.
     
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    At the start of the Trump investigation, all they had were allegations too. It was the investigation that revealed the wrongdoing.
     
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    Based on the obvious. Hunter has no experience, was paid $600K per year by a foreign company operating in the most corrupt country in Europe, and was the son of the sitting Vice President of the United States.
     
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    Exactly. A big fat nothingburger.
     
  11. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1. Shokin's firing made an investigation in to Burisma more likely, not less likely, since Shokin was fired for NOT pursuing corruption and was not investigating Burisma when he was fired. 2. Biden was carrying out the official position of the State Dept. and the Obama admin., not a personal agenda. 3. The total sum of the evidence Biden's action with respect to Shokin's firing is...........ZERO.
     
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  12. Lee Atwater

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    Federal watchdog finds OMB violated law by withholding Ukraine aid
    https://www.axios.com/gao-decision-omb-trump-ukraine-aid-2aab62ea-2e50-4301-bae7-afa5a88282ee.html

    The U.S. Government Accountability Office released Thursday a decision finding that the White House's Office of Management and Budget violated the law when it withheld military aid to Ukraine.

    The state of play: The decision from the GAO, an independent government agency, comes just hours before the Senate will kick off President Trump's impeachment trial over his administration's actions on Ukraine.

    The big picture: The GAO found that the OMB violated the 1974 Impoundment Control Act, which requires that the White House and its agencies disburse funds appropriated by Congress as directed by the legislative branch.
     
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    LOL MSNBC, the folks that bring fake news 24/7/365.. Oh you got us now :)
     
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    Happens all the time, no one care about the oath anymore and haven't in a long time! All people do is dig their heels in and deny, deny, deny..
     
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    Can you please tell us what in hell you are talking about?
     
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    Except for the fact that Biden bribed Ukraine to stop investigating Burisma. It's on tape - first hand, no hearsay.
     
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    The council of foreign affairs tape. You haven't seen it ???
     
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    This is very disturbing information about Biden, and it would be very detrimental to his campaign. However, there is so much bogus crap in the media. Do you have a reliable source for this information? It needs to be a reliable source reporting from a documented source or investigation. It can't be Hannity(?sp) quoting from Bannon.
     
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    Not sure about that. People in Congress will lie because they cannot be prosecuted. Lying to the Grand Jury is a much more serious matter.
     
  20. Lee Atwater

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    It's film footage of Graham saying no crime needs to be committed to impeach a prez. Surely you can do better.

    As it turns out a crime was committed.

    White House hold on Ukraine aid violated federal law, congressional watchdog says
    “Faithful execution of the law does not permit the President to substitute his own policy priorities for those that Congress has enacted into law,” the decision states. “OMB withheld funds for a policy reason, which is not permitted under the Impoundment Control Act.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...0ea7aa-37a3-11ea-9c01-d674772db96b_story.html
     
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  22. Lee Atwater

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    Yes, I've seen it. Another example Trumpers distorting the context since we know Biden was following US government policy, not acting on his own volition.
     
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    Why isn't bribery in the articles of impeachment ?? Why isn't the Impoundment Control Act included in the articles of impeachment ?? You are claiming that the Democrats did not know about the Impoundment Control Act ??
     
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    That's funny. What government policy was Biden following ??
     
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    Have you noticed how there is no smoking gun evidence against him? Might want to think about why
     

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