Trump followers demand their Jack Nicholson moment.

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  1. ImNotOliver

    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    Read the articles of impeachment. Trump was impeached for solicitation. It shows a pattern. He apparently also solicited Michael Cohen to pay off his illicit sexual activities.
     
  2. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is. Read article I.

    Using the powers of his high office, President Trump solicited the interference of a foreign government, Ukraine, in the 2020 United States Presidential election. He did so through a scheme or course of conduct that included soliciting the Government of Ukraine to publicly announce investigations that would benefit his reelection, harm the election prospects of a political opponent, and influence the 2020 United States Presidential election to his advantage. President Trump also sought to pressure the Government of Ukraine to take these steps by conditioning official United States Government acts of significant value to Ukraine on its public announcement of the investigations. President Trump engaged in this scheme or course of conduct for corrupt purposes in pursuit of personal political benefit. In so doing, President Trump used the powers of the Presidency in a manner that compromised the national security of the United States and undermined the integrity of the United States democratic process. He thus ignored and injured the interests of the Nation.

    President Trump engaged in this scheme or course of conduct through the following means:

    (1) President Trump — acting both directly and through his agents within and outside the United States Government — corruptly solicited the Government of Ukraine to publicly announce investigations into —

    (A) a political opponent, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden, Jr.; and

    (B) a discredited theory promoted by Russia alleging that Ukraine — rather than Russia — interfered in the 2016 United States Presidential election.

    (2) With the same corrupt motives, President Trump — acting both directly and through his agents
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    He was impeached for solicitation. Asking others to commit a crime.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    Solicitation.
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And the crime would be .... BTW Laura Cramer who was the Defense Department liaison for Ukraine testified in the House committee hearing that the delay in releasing the funding woul not result in a delay in delivering per the agreed upon schedule.
     
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    That’s absurd. What crimes did he ask others to commit ??
     
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    Where is the crime ??? Point it out.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Getting nervous about Tuesday? You should be. Remember, BOTH sides can call witnesses. Not that one sided garbage in the congressional hearings. The end is near for democrats.
     
  9. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Repubs were welcome to present witnesses with information pertinent to the proceeding. Like..........anyone offering evidence clearing Trump. Dems just refused to allow Repubs to turn the inquiry in to a circus by questioning Hunter Biden.............who we know has nothing to do with Trump is being charged with.

    Democrats invite Trump to testify in impeachment inquiry
    https://apnews.com/69ba97b946c14b4f9d4d83577a05d22a

    Parnas made a good point during his interview with Maddow. Why would he have been able to get access to these top level Ukrainian government officials he spoke to numerous times if it hadn't been made clear to them Parnas was officially representing Trump?
     
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    they will take an oath under their God to rise above party and seek the truth, let's hope they do
     
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    relevant witnesses sure, what will Hunter Biden bring to the table? nothing as he was not there and knows nothing about Trump's crimes, Hunter Biden doesn't even work for the government, has no relevant information, you think republican woudl demand documents and witnesses that have relevant information

    funny it's dems calling for the Trump admin as witnesses, guess they woudl show Trump guilty or they woudl be republican witnesses
     
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    Solicited is the primary action word. Everything else flows from it.
     
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    Well that's true, we have watched the democratic shlt show right along with the rest of the world. We all know by now what a bunch of liars and cheats the democrats are! I was commenting on their brother in arms, MSNBC ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    To interfere in the 2020 presidential election. To violate campaign finance law.
     
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    Nah bra.. I have had lawyers tell me before we ever started our meeting "DON'T tell me anything incriminating you don't want me to have to lie about! FROM THIS POINT all I want to know is you are innocent" ;)

    Never admit to anything, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER admit to anything criminal!
     
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    Ya right, so when did that happens and what finance laws were broken?
     
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    Harry Reid lied about Romney not paying taxes and got away with it.
     
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    You don't accept the transcripts of the conversation? Official transcripts aren't hearsay, they're like depositions.
     
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    And what did the transcripts actually say like actually said not what the media spinning it what did they actually say
     
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    What do you want as proof?
     
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    You know something that would show that your isn't more than sour grapes and exaggeration something that would show that he simply wasn't engaging in the usual tit for tat, this for that, such as has been part and parcel of both large and small scale diplomacy since the first group of cavemen met another group like into their own.
     
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    The truth is that if some video showed Trump jaywalking, it would be an impeachment charge for the democrats. There is no excuse for the lunacy that has dominated them since the election, they chose it, created it, and have been trying to construct a way to make it come true ever since. You don't need to be on the left or right to see that- you just have to be a rational, fair person.

    The dems have had all kinds of opportunity to make their case. They KNOW that if they open the door too wide- start saying they can introduce more evidence- all kinds of skeletons that they are responsible for will tumble out. Some of them are smart enough to not go over that hill, but a lot are just too obsessed to realize it. They have nothing else; desperation is running the show now- and it's a clown circus.
    This isn't Trump's impeachment- it's the dems funeral. And they made it happen that way.





     
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    Nope not there.
     
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    The transcripts were written by people in the room. All the other testimony was repetition of gossip 2nd, 3rd, and 4th hand.
     
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    maybe they need a video of what Trump wanted from the call

    in Trump's own words what he wanted from the call

    the reporter asked him, he answered..... all on video

     
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