Pompeo Cursed Out Reporter Who Pressed Him on Ukraine: ‘Do You Think Americans Care About Ukraine?’

Do you realize that you just proved the OP right? You just showed that you care about a strategic policy. You never once said anything personal about Ukraine itself. You care about the check they help provide against our adversary and in fighting corruption and spreading democracy. Those are strategic policies. Nothing personal. What do you know of Ukraine outside of these things? Do you know the average favorite color? What favorite show they watch on average? Favorite food? Anything personal at all? Without looking it up?

Pompeo is right in that the average American doesn't care about Ukraine. How many countries can you name? Can you name all of them? Do you know anything about the obscure ones? Without looking it up. For example ever heard of Seychelles? What do you know about them? Did you even know it was a country? Remember, don't look anything up.

The point is that while the average American may care about a strategic policy in regards to a foreign country they do not actually care about that country. If it had absolutely no strategic value then the vast majority of American's wouldn't even know it exists. Which means that they care about the strategic policy...not the country or the people itself. About the only American's that actually do care about Ukraine would be those that came from Ukraine. Everyone else couldn't give two flying figs if they existed or not beyond strategy concerns. And even those wouldn't even make up 1% of the country.

 

So if I knew the average favorite color of Ukraine, that would indicate what? That I'm Rain Man??

Too funny...

You start naming countries first, and we'll jump in when you get to the L's..

 

It would indicate that you cared enough about them to learn something beyond their strategic value.

 

You are incredibly desperate.

 

Not me. Actually, it's you. After all, I'm comfortable in the knowledge that President Trump has another 5 years to serve. Enjoy!

 

I thoroughly reject the argument that I must know about the average personal interests (and seriously, average personal color? Really?) Is the only way to establish that I care about a country. I love my country and I cant tell you the average favorite color in America.

Relatedly, I thoroughly reject the notion that caring about the country does not entail or include caring about their strategic or policy value to our country.

 

Thanks for expressing your feelings. Hope you feel better.

Meanwhile John Bolton is going to testify that Trump personally said he would hold up military aid until Ukraine announced an investigation against the Bidens.

 

It's not the only way to establish that you care about a country. There are other ways. But caring about their strategic value as a "significant check on our adversary" is purely about protecting yourself. Its a selfish reason and shows absolutely no care about them at all. Same goes with fighting corruption. And "spreading democracy" is about spreading your beliefs. Again, a selfish thing. Not one thing that you mentioned has anything to do with caring about Ukraine. It has everything to do with caring about yourself.

Please note that when I use "you" or "yourself" its not directed at YOU personally. Just using them in general terms.

 

And trump loves sending your taxpayer dollars to his private businesses and pressuring foreign governments into investigating his domestic political rivals because he has your best interests at heart.

 

I understand and I take no offense on you and yourself language.

I still reject the notion that there is a significant distinction or, perhaps more importantly, than Pompeo's allegation about the average American not caring about Ukraine was solely meant in the sense of Americans not caring about them on a personal level. I think it is clear that he meant it in the sense that the average American does not care about Ukraine - strategically or personally or anything - at all. And let's me clear, I dont necessarily believe that he is wrong because Americans are notoriously self-centered and generally lack an awareness or empathy towards the rest of the world. A viewpoint that has arguably gotten exponentially worse in the last 3 years.

But that still does very little - to nothing - in terms of excusing the behavior of the Secretary of State when being confronted questions about an objectively relevant topic by a reporter.

 

Also, the Democratic party needs to be crushed? What the **** does that even mean? And do you consider 2018 a resounding and overwhelming failure on your path to that goal?

 

Perhaps, but every setback is an opportunity to recover from it. The Democratic Party of today isn't even the same party of 2004. I feel like things could've been better if the 'opposition' had been a 'loyal opposition'(just like in every other Presidency), rather than the resistance. Maybe Trump doesn't resort to the measures with Ukraine, etc. We'll never know.

 

The Democratic Party's only ambition is its own wealth and power. Nancy Pelosi's district is an abomination and she doesn't give a flying **** about any of them. She's never seen a foreigner that she didn't think should be living in the U.S. usurping off of the American citizen. She's more loyal to an MS-13 gang member than to an average American. Jesus Christ could be president of the U.S. and could be doing incredible things for the American people and Nancy would oppose him too and you'd still be supporting Nancy.

Why do you love the Democratic Party more than you love average Americans?

 

Yes, I do.

The Democratic Party represents a diminishment in the standard of living for both poor and middle-class Americans. The Democratic Party represents government control of every facet of our lives as well as the economy. The Democratic Party represents the abolishment of individual rights in exchange for the collective. The Democratic Party would love to turn the U.S. into a one-party oligarchy in which the party IS the nation.

I support limiting government control and government power. I support individual freedom and the concept of being able to be as successful as one is willing to work. I support the rule of law and the enforcement of immigration laws. Ultimately, I support improving the lives of average Americans.

If and when the Democratic Party is every again for such things, I'll think about voting for them.

 

So, ipso facto, you would believe that the Senate ought not be suppressing the truth, it should be doing all it can to have the truth and all the truth emerge, and that Donald Trump is like the rest of us....not above the Law.

 

Thank you.

He may very well have. :shrugs: It still would be accurate imo. Like you say, Americans are self centered. Most don't even know who sits on their own state legislatures and slightly less don't even know who represents them in the HoR. If they don't even bother to know that much then why would they care about a place on the other side of the world? Be it strategically or on a personal level?

Sometimes truth hurts. As for him being rude? I don't know. I haven't watched any clip of it. I may later after work if I can find one that has full context.

 

*******n that's a long string of absurdist beliefs. Let me know when you have anything rational to add or at least some type of data that you think supports your feelings.

 

At no point in that post did you address the fact that 2018 was a massive #BlueTide year where House Democrats earned ~9.8 million more votes in total (a new record) and Democrats in general flipped ~390 seats across all local, state, and federal elections.

How are those a step towards the eradication of the Democratic party in your mind?

 

There is some proof that Americans don't care about Ukraine.

"Nearly a quarter of Americans know what we should do about the Ukraine Administrative Adjustment Act of 2005, a new HuffPost/YouGov poll finds. That’s not a good thing, because the Ukraine Administrative Adjustment Act doesn’t exist."
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ukraine-knowledge-poll_n_4979441

"Only one in six Americans were able to accurately place Ukraine on a map.

What's more is that the farther a respondents' guesses were from Ukraine, the more they wanted the U.S. to intervene with military force, according to the researchers. This is despite the fact that two-thirds of Americans report following the conflict in Ukraine "somewhat closely."
https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-where-americans-think-ukraine-is-2014-4

 

It's radio. The interview was contentious only in that Pompeo was told he'd be interviewed about Iran (not Ukraine). Kelly claims that she contacted his staff the night before the interview to inform them that she'd ask about Iran and Ukraine. Pompeo was caught off guard and didn't want to talk about Ukraine.

Here is the full transcript:
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/24/7985...interview-with-secretary-of-state-mike-pompeo

The rest is all Kelly's hearsay, talking about Pompeo cursing her out. Would she have said anything if she was also being rude and yelling back at Pompeo? Who knows? She doesn't seem like the wilting-violet type personality. It's all speculation surrounding a liberal media hack claiming, "Meanie Pompeo hurt my feelings!" We have no idea what she said in the exchange.

News should be more about what's on-the-record than about unverifiable off-the-record hearsay and gossip.

 

Where Americans think Ukraine is....

 

The American people will pay a heavy price for foolishly voting for Democrats. Their standard of living will decline.

 

His temper tantrum - created by a reporter asking him about an objectively relevant topic - was not off the record.

Also, why do you keep embracing this notion that she is a liberal hack?

 

The American people got what they wanted by voting in the Democrats.

Merry Impeachmas!

 

It wasn't' on-the-record or their would be either audio or video of what was actually said.

She's a liberal hack. Pretty obvious by what she and NPR publish....or you can simply read a couple Tweets on her feed.

NPR is paid for by taxpayers and it's a Democrat Party's propaganda arm. With thousands of privately-owned radio stations in the country, we don't need a biased government-owned propaganda feed.