"Why do you need 10 bullets"

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Anyone who asks this question knows nothing about firearms or violent crime in the US.
    So... if they ask because they want to learn, that's fine.
     
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    so I can assume you oppose restrictions on magazine size? I merely asked you a question.
     
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    Yup
     
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    Those advocating limits on mags have never been in a gun fight. When you are down to your last round and the fight is still on, it is something you don’t want to experience... I have. Never again if I can help it.
    I have seen someone shot 8 times with a 9mm that didn’t go down until after he had killed the fellow that had shot him. Humans are fragile, but sometimes they can be surprisingly hard to stop.
    I recall (though I haven’t located the video) dash cam vid of an Ohio officer who had pulled a fellow offer for a traffic offense. The dash cam had recorded the fellow that was pulled over emerge from his car shooting at the officer, and the officer returning fire. Both emptied their pistols within what was less than 30’. Neither was hit in the gun fight.
    The basic rule when training for self defense with a gun, is you keep shooting until the threat is ended... a wounded bad guy is still dangerous.

    BTW, it is worth reading the story Samuel Colt, Captain Walker, Texas Rangers and the Walker Colt.

    Now I might agree with smaller mag limits if I could find the place Hollywood shops at to get magic bullets. But, also I’ve noticed the revolvers they use have unlimited capacity.
     
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    10 is an arbitrary number that represents the level of infringement politicians believe they can get away with. If they could get away with 7 or 3, they would. Its the boil the frog method of disarming good people. Is there a limit on how many rocks or ball bearings that can be placed in a pressure cooker?

    Based on your logic, the odds of needing one round of ammunition are extremely rare, so ammo should be banned altogether.
     
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    It means this:

     
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    At least the "male" had enough sense to hang out with a female with some balls.
     
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    why didn't both of them arm themselves and then wait for the cops? what happened to the mope who exited what appears to be the "bottom" of the video?
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The 2nd covers more than self defense. Attempting to frame gun ownership so narrowly is a non-starter...
     
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    "According to news reports, Jared Lee Loughner, the alleged shooter in Tucson, used a 33-round magazine in a murderous rampage. The sheriff says 31 spent rounds were found on the scene.

    "As we now know, a group of heroic bystanders stopped the shooter by wrestling him to the ground. But they didn't have an opportunity to intervene until he emptied the magazine and paused to reload.

    "If the shooter didn't have access to the high-capacity magazine that he used, he would have stopped to reload sooner and lives might have been saved."
    https://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/01/12/lautenberg.high.capacity.clips/index.html

    Well said and a good example of why high capacity magazines should be outlawed.
     
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    BS, no such mag exists.

    Or like in Parkland he could have had a jam due to using a 30 round mag and would be totally out of commission, none the less if one of those bystanders had been armed the shooting could have been ended much sooner.[/quote][/QUOTE]
     
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    Should the illicit trade and use of illicit narcotic substances be construed as grounds for prohibiting all opioid-type pain medication legitimately prescribed in the united states?

    The united state supreme court has already ruled, at least twice, the criminal misuse of firearms is not grounds for attempting to restrict the legal use and ownership of firearms by the public. There is no reason to believe the same precedent does not also extend to accessories, when law enforcement is entrusted to use the same said accessories.
     
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    Around 10:30 PM, just after the end of the Bastille Day fireworks display, a white, 19-ton Renault Midlum cargo truck turned left onto the main beachfront Promenade des Anglais and drove relentlessly through a crowd of thousands of revelers. By the time the driver was killed by police, he had killed 87 people and injured nearly 500 in a horrific scene.
    https://www.thedrive.com/opinion/11651/10-times-people-used-cars-to-terrorize-and-murder-people
    this is why we should ban cargo trucks no one needs such killing machines.
     
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    I don't "need" ten bullets.

    I want ten bullets...
     
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    It’s not a yes or no question.

    The most important aspect of a handgun, is how quickly, safely and accurately you can get it into action, not the number of rounds it carries after 5-10. And imo, it’s about weight and bulk within that range. 10 seems to be the best balance between weight and effectiveness.
     
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    I’d have bigger concern with how the fk some fools get a gun to begin with.
     
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    First, based upon what criteria.

    Secondly, law enforcement officers utilize magazines that hold fifteen or more rounds of ammunition. Basically holding that ten rounds of ammunition per magazine is simply not good enough for protecting the public from harm.
     
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    Through whatever means necessary, such as basic human nature being what it is. Laziness and greed overrule any and all legislative restrictions.

    Ultimately what difference is made in how any particular individual acquires a firearm?
     
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    We have to address the legitimate fears of the public and law enforcement . It’s a simple and effective matter of dealing with high cap pistols in a similar way we deal with many other special weapons. A permit to carry and a special permit to carry a weapon over 10 rounds, which is just my recommendation. If you’re caught with higher cap, it’s a stiff fine, jail time and loss of all firearm rights.....it’s a felony.
     
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    How will such ultimately serve to prevent the misuse of magazines capable of holding more than ten rounds of ammunition? How will such ultimately prevent the acquisition of magazines capable of holding more than ten rounds of ammunition, by those who cannot legally possess firearms yet do so regardless?
     
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    If I were a cop and had a full auto in the trunk, I certainly should be BETTER armed then any criminal. The 10 round limit is just my personal opinion. I’ve dumped the one handgun I had with a 17 rd cap. It was useless to me. I never carried the monstrosity.
    If I need more then 10 rounds where I live, work or recreate, I’m moving.
     
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    You need to read my original post. I would have much stricter gun control laws to begin with. High cap pistols are a secondary concern to me. I have no problem with a permitted gun owner having a permit to carry a high cap pistol. None what so ever.
     

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