"Why do you need 10 bullets"

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  1. Xenamnes

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    And yet such is not always the case.

    Seventeen rounds is generally the standard capacity on most semi-automatic pistols classified as being service size, such as the Glock 17 and numerous other sized models. How is something so standard, ultimately so useless on the part of yourself?

    Running away is not a viable option, or even proposal.
     
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    How would such ultimately serve to prevent individuals who cannot legally possess firearms, from acquiring and using such magazines?
     
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    That’s in your world. I find people are generally law abiding, even criminals who won’t speed or be caught carrying illegal weapons. It’s all about the chance of being caught that has the most effect on criminal behavior. You know that’s true, everyone does. More cops on the beat and closer contact and trust between cops and we law abiders does wonders.
     
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    Then we’re not doing our job.
     
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    The same way full autos aren’t normally carried or used. It’s a false argument.
     
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    You’re trolling now and not a serious commentator.
     
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    It is the real world. Basic human nature cannot be successfully accounted for with regard to legislation. If it could, numerous mass shooters would have been entered into the national instant check system long before they ever committed their crimes.

    Explain why the so-called "war on drugs" has been a national failure, and the number of individuals suffering overdose-related deaths due to illicit narcotic substances have been increasing, rather than decreasing.
     
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    A false analogy. Fully-automatic firearms were not commonly owned or used even prior to the implementation of the National Firearms Act, simply because they were too expensive for the majority of the population to own. Their ownership did not become widespread before the restriction was implemented. The same cannot be said with regard to magazines capable of holding more than ten rounds of ammunition, which have always been available, their ownership is very widespread, and they do not have serial numbers to prove when they were made or acquired.
     
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    Very few individuals have the freedom to move from what they deem to be a problematic location, and travel to a new location.

    Even if one could freely do so, what location can be traveled to where crime is not prevalent? What is to prevent the criminal element from traveling just as freely?
     
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    I’m not explaining sht. You want to live in fear, go for it.
     
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    Wrong. This is a free country. Everyone I know or have in family lives generally where they want, maybe not in the exact house, but in the state, neighborhood and general environment they choose. We live in a free country. You haven’t noticed ? Where there is a will and a willingness to work, you can do it, it’s about prioritizing and being in control of your life.
     
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    That’s funny......I leave the car and tractor keys in my vehicles at night. No one bothers me or my property for the 25 years I’ve lived here. Everyone has at least one, and often more of the ugliest dogs around and you need 4 wd just to get in here for much of the year. Ha ha.
     
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    that's beyond silly. . it is already a felony to carry a firearm if you are a felon or to use a firearm to hurt someone. you want to handicap honest citizens and turn many of them into criminals.
     
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    This is nonsense because there are so many of those magazines out there-and the military uses them for the M4 rifles that all you are trying to do is turn honest owners into criminals. And you want to handicap honest citizens in a violent confrontation with armed criminals. and you clearly demonstrate you know almost nothing about firearms-and how fast even a somewhat trained person can reload one
     
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    Huh ? Thats beyond uninformed. You didn't even read it correctly.
    It would be a federal offense for even a law abiding citizen to carry an illegal, unlicensed weapon.
     
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    Get real. It still works.
     
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    Legal gun owners are the primary conduit for anyone else getting guns. Making it tough for legal gun owners to own and transfer illegal weapons, has done much to keep them out criminal use. Fact. It does the same for ANY device ever made. We have a huge hard drug problem because the vast majority started out as legal prescription drug users and easy access users through scripts.

    geesus, it’s the same with the proliferation with nukes. It starts with legal users. Study facts, history and a little science.
     
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    Wow...experts are people who can reload faster ?
     
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    Prove such to be the case, rather than merely the claim.

    The ATF has proven that such is not the case.

    Again, prove such to be the case.
     
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    It’s logical . No one makes guns and nukes and poisons and sells them directly from the factory to criminals. They are all sell them to dealers for regulated sales to the public. You ever work I business ? Of course, you were just trolling right .
     
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    Simply because it is believed the claim is logical, does not in fact make it factually correct or even accurate by default. It must instead be proven.
     
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    where does the federal government get such a power?

    How many cops and gun ban advocates would die if you start draconian sentences for merely possessing a firearm that the hysterics are afraid of?
     
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    yeah but criminals won't obey the stupid laws you want to pass. Laws that you know will only harass honest people-which of course-is your real goal.
     
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    only to harass honest people-which if course is your goal
     
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