China hints at denying Americans life-saving coronavirus drugs

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Well if nothing else this Corona hysteria is teaching America exactly what Trump has been preaching since elected. We are far to reliant on China and need to bring jobs home for national security.

    "Now that the number of new people infected with the coronavirus in China is slowing down, the country's Communist Party is ratcheting up threats against the West, with a particularly nasty warning about access to life-saving drugs aimed at the United States"

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/chinese-deny-americans-coronavirus-drugs
     
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    You can't be friends with communists.

    Countries can never really be friends, we just use eachother while it is mutually convenient. Our relationship with them is coming to an end, i for one don't think that's a bad thing.
     
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    Nixon’s opening up trade relations with China had the best of intentions but as the saying goes it ended up being the road to hell. It’s time to rethink and revamp our China policy.
     
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    I don't think there is anything wrong with trading with China, the problem is we taught them everything we know and pushed ourselves out of so many manufacturing markets.
     
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    Not surprising since they blamed the US Army for the virus being released in China. Of course that is at least their third version of where the virus originated. First it was a person in the Wuhan open market. Then it was people eating skunks. Now, it is a US transport plane visited Wuhan, and released vials of covid-19.
     
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    Fox conveniently failed to link the article it referenced and paraphrased (but interestingly didn't directly quote) and I couldn't find it on the source site.

    Have you seen it or are you just presuming you're being told the complete and unvarnished truth by anyone in this?
     
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    now i'm not a fan of china, but sound like fox always has some issue with china. consider china is sending aid to EU right now. remember there are always ultra right wing in any country, in china or in US.

    meanwhile

    https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...o-fight-coronavirus-spanish-government-source
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/china-sends-experts-ventilators-and-masks-to-italy-7zs6wtwk9
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-medical-aid-to-spain-and-italy-idUSKBN20Z27G

     
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    its conspiracy, we have our own one too so.. just show there is people like that everywhere.
     
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    Opening trade relations with China was supposed to change them, supposed to nudge them to freedom and democracy as they were exposed to western culture. That didn’t happen but what did happen is they took our jobs and we are reliant on them for everything from pharmaceuticals to phones and if our relationship with them changed anyone’s culture it’s ours and it’s for the worse. China is our enemy and we need to wake up to that fact before it’s too late.
     
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    80% of the building blocks, or components, of pharmaceuticals "assembled" in the USA come from China. So the fact is that China indeed could cut the USA off from these building blocks at will, at any time they please, and with the USA having no present capacity to manufacture these components, US citizens will die or grow sicker from ALL kinds of diseases.

    China can do it cheaper, but with this latest Chinese threat it is time to bring this pharmaceutical manufacturing, and all manufacturing, but immediately anything related to healthcare and defense, back to the US. Once all healthcare and defense manufacturing are back, then start bringing back ALL MANUFACTURING.

    Stamp out globalism and send it straight to Hell in flames.
     
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    No surprises here. China is and has been for a long time attempting to usurp America as the worlds major power. John Gotti was also benevolent to those he chose to influence.
     
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    well consider a lot farmer and business benefit from raising income in china when trading with china, you might want talk to them about not trading with one of the largest customer of theirs.
    one of my dad friend who work at GM, told him after Fed bill out GM, GM had to find additional business elsewhere, and that elsewhere was china. GM earn huge profit in china, and later use some of those profit to buy back their stock from the Fed and to keep parts of R&D going. Now they sold more auto in china than in US. so you could imagine devastation it will cause to GM/boeing/ge and other business if they lost that market. it is estimate Boeing will lose 50-200k employee if they lose china market.
    so yea stop trading will hurt both, not just them.
     
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    no it will goto india, you think poor people can afford the ridiculously price of medicine?
     
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    Maybe if we're lucky the Chinese will send some aid to us. We're going the same path as Italy and Trump's response is more travel bans. The virus is HERE, you ignorant Bonespurs ****, now is the time for mitigation, like let's actually test some people so we know how much of a problem we really have.

    Tom Hanks only knew he had Covid because he was in the civilized nation of Australia. Had he been here it wouldn't have been possible for him to be tested even yet.

    And in the end, we're only having this because Trump abolished the CDC's Pandemic branch a year ago. "We've never used that, I need that money for my Wall."

    I swear to god the conservatives are going to kill us all. They're like the Medieval Doctors who stuffed their pockets with flowers because they thought the Black Death was caused by bad smells and meanwhile felt that fleas were cute and filth and "Brother Rat" were signs of Godliness.
     
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    right so they don't give aid, they suck, they give aid its fake.
     
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    B-B-But the Communist Chinese are on the side of the angels . . . just ask any political leftist in our nation. It's only White, Old, Rich, Males whom are EVIL . . . unless of course they are Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden.
     
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    You are confirming my thesis that we have become far too dependent on China.
    “The Capitalists will sell us the rope we will use to hang them”
     
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    You honestly believe a country that runs its own people over with tanks gives aid to other countries out of benevolence?
     
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    Maybe they were Hillary Clinton trained? "This is why I lost the 2016 election. No . . . wait a minute . . . it was this reason instead. No! It was some other reason . . . Orange Man Bad!" Is she in collusion with the Communist Chinese? We should investigate. Robert Mueller, where arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre you?
     
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    "Lifesaving Coronavirus drugs." They don't even exist yet, so I'm confused why this article has been written.
     
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    You’d have to ask the Chinese official about that. Maybe they think they are on the verge of having one. As it is they hold lots of power with the drugs they do manufacture.
     
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    Our consumer power is better than nuclear bombs. Just start making and buying our own stuff again and China can go back to the dark ages.
     
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    US transport plane. Right. That's exactly the how such a mission would be completed if it were contemplated.

    And even in all-out war you wouldn't likely do it all if you didn't already have the immunization for it.
     
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    They write what they want in China and the people gots to believe it, regardless. It's not like the USA where we seldom believe what comes over the mainstream media and the government don't send agents to visit us.
     
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    and you think every country given out aid don't have some other agenda. does china want some good relation with Italy or spain by given out aid sure. does Italy and spain take it and thank them? yes they did. they don't care its for influence or not, they need the mask and other medical equipment to support the overwhelm health worker over there. most mask is made in china anyway.
    we offer iran some aid before during this crisis, you think Pompeo honestly is doing it for the benevolence.

    so if there is shortage for mask and other med equipment here for healthworker, and if china offer it, do we take it or not. I mean 90% of mask is made in china anyway.
     
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